• Zozano@aussie.zone
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    11 hours ago

    And a third unfired case read: “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

    Fuckin’ lawl

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    14 hours ago

    Inscriptions on a fired casing read: “notices bulges” capital “O-W-O what’s this?”

    Imagine having to say that at a press conference.

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      11 hours ago

      So to sum up, Charlie Kirk was downplaying gun violence in the US, and using a racist dogwhistle to do so, WHILE standing under a giant fucking “prove me wrong” banner, when he was shot with a bullet labeled “OWO what’s this?” by a Mormon cop’s kid from Utah (ie, whiter than raisins in potato salad).

      That is an actual fucking series of events that actually fucking happened. We’ve gone past “the onion is reality” to “this would be too on the nose if it was an onion article and yet it’s somehow reality”.

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    Hey can someone tell me what the fuck “transgender ideology” means? Because to me that phrase makes absolutely zero sense

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      TRN. That’s what was on the bullet. Which is a manufacturing mark.

      Other things written on the bullets imply that the shooter idolizes Nick Fuentes, and is, in fact, somthing called a Groyper.

      As a note, Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk.

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      “Transgender ideology” is the outrageous radical belief that transgender people are people and deserve to be able to live their lives.

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      Just right-wing drivel to discredit a minority they don’t understand. There’s not much to understand beyond that because them they don’t understand it themselves.

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    “Family member” narc’ed.

    Important lesson everyone, listen up: someone will always narc. It’s a surveillance society in a heavily propagandized world. Your right to remain silent is all you get.

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      he called his dad and confessed. his dad advised him to turn himself in. he said he’d rather commit suicide. his dad called his youth pastor to talk him down, who called the US marshals to secure him. I feel bad for the dad… that’s got to be a genuinely horrible situation to navigate.

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        Youth pastor calling the marshals man. Cold.

        Would Jesus narc on you? Friend, he would not. Mostly because he didn’t exist but still. As a character that is not consistent.

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            Not the dude in the Bible, because the things he’s supposed to have done are impossible. So probably there was some dude that did or said some things and then got a bunch of folklore attached to him. A certain amount of the jesus story comes from contemporaneous myths - IIRC, a virgin birth was a common one.

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              So probably there was some dude that did or said some things and then got a bunch of folklore attached to him.

              Yeah. Likely Osiris. Almost all of the Jesus stories are taken from earlier solar deity “myths” and put into 1CE Judea. Like a graduate school production of Richard III in space with cigarettes.

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          Jesus wouldn’t narc on you, but he might tell you to surrender yourself to police. no murder is one of the Ten Commandments. this is how Catholic confession works, at least (I am not Catholic.)

          I suspect the kid consented to the pastor calling the marshals, after deciding to turn himself in. otherwise how would they know where to find him that quickly?

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            I’m Catholic. When I was a kid I had to go to confessional and like most Catholic kids we just made shit up cause I mean come on, no kid is keeping tally of all the stuff they’ve done. So we’d just lie to the priest and try to one up each other with “stuff we did”. The priest never told our parents or teachers.

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        That makes sense. I was just thinking about the plan ally these people have. Shooting someone like this is a bad idea. If your plan is shoot and run, they are going to have cameras. Do something remote where you can first run to another country and the “shoot”, or play the plausible deniability card and do get caught.

        “my drone malfunctioned while varying a very heavy camera and it just fell on him” is more believable than “well I was just standing there with my rifle, and when I saw what happened through my scope I jumped from a roof and ran because I was afraid of getting blamed for it”

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        1. They’ll probably never see the reward. The McDonalds employee who turned in Luigi hasn’t seen a penny.

        2. This guy killed a fascist spreading hate and violence towards minorities. He was literally in the middle of it when he was killed. I’m not sure the “piece-of-shit” label fits.

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    I opened up Ground News today and the mainstream news sources are just full of this statement that the bullets were “engraved with transgender ideology.” Someone has been making very sure this falsehood is the message all the journalists take away and report. And now it has been all over the news throughout the day.

    It’s horrible seeing the fascists lie and lie to set up trans people as villains and enemies.

    And what’s with this “anti-fascist ideology” thing? Remember before 2015 when anti-fascist ideology was just the default and the baseline for being even a half-decent person?

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      did Ground News report that as fact? journalism 101: when you report on a rumor, clearly mark it as a rumor. or just don’t report rumors in the first place.

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        Ground News is a news aggregator that publishes links to other sites’ news pages. It doesn’t really have editorial content of its own, though it does have some AI summaries which should be treated with the appropriate mistrust.

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      Reminder that Ground news exists entirely to push a “both sides” narrative in a world where right wing media openly seeks to push “alternative facts” and big lies.

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        Know your enemy. I feel like your chances of helping deprogram someone are higher if you know what bullshit they’re being fed. Then again I’m batting zero so who knows

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        Well, yes, I have a similar view of anything that makes politics into a balance between “left” and “right”. Even to treat them as two ends of the same line overly elevates the right, which is just a bunch of base impulses, personality defects, resentments, lies and scams dressed up as a political ideology. So I agree with your point and I don’t treat Ground News as a map of truth, but I do find it handy for getting a quick overview of what many news websites are saying and how the right is spinning things.

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    How was it engraved? Did the guy own some sort of engraving rig? How did he fit all this text on a bullet?

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    The other inscriptions on the fired casings:

    “notices bulges”

    capital “O-W-O what’s this?”

    Inscriptions on the three unfired casings:

    “hey fascist!” “catch!” Up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.

    “Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Ciao, Ciao.”

    “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

    Also:

    A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The purported transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.

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      Is it at all possible that they were interpreting the “bulges” thing as trans related? Not to say that it is, but it seems more likely than the TRN thing.

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      This says that the “sequence of arrows” was interpreted as a transgender symbol.

      Now we know that the sequence of arrows was “up, right, down, down, down”

      …that’s the strategem code for the 500kg bomb in helldivers 2.

      The ATF interpreted a video game reference as a transgender symbol…

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      It suggests that not nearly enough people think to themselves, upon reading it, “How the fuck do you fit all of that on a fucking bullet? Bullshit.”

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        It does sound kinda long but I assume they’ll have to release images eventually. If it’s a lie, it’s not a very well-planned one.

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          I don’t know if this is planned or sheer incompetence and playing telephone.

          But what I do know is, if it is planned, then either:

          1. They care mostly about the immediate reaction to the news — trying to stoke the fire of stochastic violence. If the truth comes out in a few days, that’s outside the window they are hoping to create a reaction within.
          2. Or maybe they expect the truth, being a non-event, will not be reported by the same outlets that spread the rumors. They outlets will simply drop it and not report on it any more, but the audience will be left with the idea that the kid was a secret trans activist.
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        Possible. We’ll see. Supposedly they caught the guy so we’ll see what evidence there is and what his beliefs are at some point.

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          Supposedly Luigi is the guy who shot that evil Healthcare corpo but they still haven’t managed to find anything convincing