Orange Shitbasket uses a person’s death to distract his involvement in raping little children.
Weird, huh? Sure makes it look planned.
This is the correct headline. Why is the rest of the media having so much trouble?
They’d rather mangle & twist their headlines into pretzels to avoid even the appearance of something that might possibly offend Herr SHitler.
So we all know the shooter is going to be maga, right?
Conspiracy is that Trump had him killed so he can ramp up his military dictatorship.
Also they say that the video of Trump is AI amd was posted before it was even announced Kirk was dead.
The the fact high-powered rifle at long distance. Yeah I can almost buy into it.
I don’t want to yuck your yums, since it’s sort of a subjective call, but I wouldn’t necessarily call 200 meters a “long distance” shot. It’s not close range, but hitting a mostly stationary human sized target at that distance is, if not “easy”, certainly achievable with a minimal amount of firearms experience. I think this holds true even without the assistance of scopes or other optics. For reference, basic rifle marksmanship qualification for the armed forces has you taking on targets out to 300 meters with iron sights, and, despite never firing a weapon prior to basic training, I was able to consistently hit the 200 meter targets (though beyond that range was a coin flip)
Furthermore, calling the weapon a high-powered rifle is, to some extent, redundant. Again, it’s subjective, but pretty much any firearm which fires rifle caliber ammunition is going to be by default “high-powered”, unless it’s .22LR. That’s the only rifle cartridge I can think of that is commonly available that would not qualify as “high-powered” by a reasonable definition.
The only reason I bring up this little bit of pedantry is because, as you mentioned in your post, calling it a “long distance shot with a high powered rifle” leads the listener towards certain conclusions that are not well-founded at this juncture. It’s not inaccurate or untruthful, but I do think it leaves out relevant context.
The the fact high-powered rifle at long distance
That’s not that amazing, plenty of people hunt or target shoot and get good. The suspect part to me is the shooter escaping
I’m not that surprised the shooter hasn’t been caught yet. the only things known at this point are that they wore dark clothing and were possibly college-aged? And the building the shot was fired from.
The shooter started 200 yds from the victim, so it’s not like they had to escape through a panicked crowd or anything. If there weren’t any cops nearby and the shooter used a bit of planning and common-sense opsec (e.g. didn’t carry a smart-phone, didn’t share plans with anyone else) it’s feasible to imagine them quickly ditching the gun nearby, maybe getting into a car and driving off. At that point they’ve blended in, unless/until further evidence is uncovered.
I agree, any hunter could have made that shot. What’s suspect to me is the dude standing there doing basebaII signaIs right before the shot.
What guy did I miss a clip. I wasn’t even paying attention to the audience. Plus the video is short that I saw. Ever see fhat Nicholas Cage movie Snake Eyes? They had someone that did something similar.
If it were a conspiracy they would have had a “leftist” patsy lined-up.
Did the patsy change their mind about being caught?
Don’t know, sure they will have a scapegoat soon. If the bullet cases they found have what say written on them. Then I will know 100% a setup.
I don’t buy it. It is extremely risky, and, frankly, he doesn’t need that to execute his dictatorship plans.
Plus the likes of that piece of shit are part of his propaganda machine.
Two things one he setup his on assassination attempt so yes I see him doing this one. Two if we dig deep enough might find evidence that Kirk at some point criticized Trump, maybe even about the Epstein files. Which would be enough for Trump to decide to use Kirk as his martyr.
Like I heard Trump announced his death using an AI video only moments after the shot. Since those things take at least some amount of time to setup means they had it ready to go before the shot.
Might look into who setup this event for Kirk to be outdoors. And even the topic he was discussing at the time of his death was gun violence. It’s almost like Karma or density. Which is just to close to getting what he deserved.
At the same time his death is about to set off a mass unrest with all the targets being left wing commentary YouTubers and Tik Tok. You name it. Us on the left are about to have very bad time. And the president of United States will be leading the charge. Gives
Trump more fuel to attack blue states. Also he needs to rig the midterms. Any excuse to make our votes against him and his illegitimate.
Clocks ticking we are getting closer to civil war…what will be the thing that historians will point to as the catalyst that set it off. Hopefully not this fucker death but I don’t know something will.
I don’t bite to the conspiracy theory that he setup his own assassination attempt either. The bullet was real and very close. He wouldn’t gamble with his life.
Oh Kirk wasn’t in on this. But a better explanation is with the new photos of the supposed killer. They look a lot like the guy who supposedly shot that healthcare CEO.
What if it is the same guy? We all know Luigi is innocent, so that means that killer been free all this time. Could be.
Honestly, I very much WOULD like there to be a real-world Punisher doing good works.
Right. About as thin as the “Elon and Donald’s falling-out is some 5d chess” conspiracy theories.
Occam’s razor.
I’m done playing nice. Charlie Kirk was human garbage and I’m glad he’s dead. I can only hope more people like him are dealt with appropriately. People like him are here only to destroy society and we’ve let them get on for far too long. Yup, I know I’m a pig, but at least I’m not a fascist.
Charlie Kirk became the acceptable loss he believed in. The best way to respect his passing is to ensure that acceptable losses everywhere are the people that believe in acceptable losses.
Duh no shit, of course. This was always going to happen, they were always going to blame the left because that is the playbook for EVERYTHING.
And if we’re not careful, the violent fascists are gonna get…violent!
Let’s obey in advance so we never give them the excuse to do the thing they’re going to do anyway.
the only way to stop a violent fascist is to give them whatever they want
– violent fascists
Exactly! That’s why Hitler stopped at Czechoslovakia and Putin stopped at Crimea.
Phew, imagine if people put up a fight! :O
No one is surprised. He will use any possible angle to use the military against us.
Get ready for the government to declare a national emergency or some BS.
Its genuinely funny this took place in Utah. I would be tickled if a reporter asks if he’ll send the national guard to Utah.
Since the president kid toucher is being wreckless, guess I should to.
Kirk died due to the epstein files. You fire up a bunch of crazy people about pedos being everywhere. Drinking blood and keeping kids in pizza basements. Then you say, “I’m done talking about Epstein.” How did you think people will react?
I’ve heard this before, but I don’t remember where: Trump will nuke someone before he ever admits he fucked kids.
I believe it, so let’s force him to by dragging him to court and showing the evidence and witness testimony. He’s never going to volunteer it.
Aaaand there we go, right on cue, and exactly as expected
I mean, don’t Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum regularly say things along the lines of if someone on the left was murdered, they would applaud it?
Never let a crisis go to waste. — Machiavellian leaders
The fact that he was the one that broke the news before all major media, and the fact that he’s doing his level best to railroad the narrative, makes me more and more suspicious that the whole fucking thing was orchestrated.
If that were true, I doubt they’d off Charlie Kirk, he’s too valuable. He was essentially the replacement for Rush Limbaugh, and would be their prime recruiter and indoctrinator for the next several decades. Now they have to figure out a new recruiter.
Whoever did this was thinking very strategically. I like it.
He started asking about the epstein files again. IMO this is how they fire right wing grifters
Okay, I could see that. Killing CK sends a message to other outspoken Epstein critics to STFU, as well as give them a pretense to go after the Left.
Sure, whatever, I’m open to any explanation that keeps the real shooter from being held responsible, just like Luigi. They’re a hero, whoever they are. I hope they aren’t finished.
No, now they have a martyr. Maybe it was a DIY martyr, is my point. Charlie Kirk as a martyr for their cause is probably going to be more of a powerful and flexible thing long-term than Charlie Kirk as a psychopathic fascist influencer.
Fascists see expression of power and killing as rights of the elite. They want the gun losses to be school children. Charlie kirk being skillfully killed is breaking the illusion of their every-man-for-himself victory of the superior.
The only reason I can think the powers to be would benefit from killing him is to start a war with like mexico or something.
I really really think people over estimate the power of martyrdom.
Do you know who Fred Hampton was? If not, proves my point. I think most people don’t know who he was, and he definitely would have done more for the world if he hasn’t been assassinated.
Yeah, martyrdom is over-rated. It worked when people thought martyrs would be the source of miracles, but now it’s what? A propaganda tool? They have much better tools than that pointing to a dead guy.
No, Charlie Kirk had taken Rush Limbaugh’s position as MAGAs primary recruitment and indoctrination officer. He was instrumental in creating young male conservatives. He was very young, and like Rush, could have held that position for decades, bringing millions into the movement.
Now that’s finished, and they will have to groom a new recruiter. It looked like Ben Shapiro for awhile, but Kirk passed him up. Now they’ll have to back to their bench and try to prop up someone new.
Hampton was black, and was assassinated when the government was kinda-sorta actively trying to tamp down on civil rights.
Kirk was white, and was assassinated when the government was kinda-sorta actively trying to stir up white suprematist and fascist sentiment.
They are not analogous situations.
It’s the political rhetoric on both sides of that are driving people to extreme actions. The news is just feeding everyone’s fears and social media is helping.
Just look at Reddit and Lemmy celebrating the death of a person. Mainly due to his political views. I keep seeing people post what he stated about the 2nd amendment and some deaths will occur. Even after this incident, I would wager he still believes in 2nd amendment.
The person committing the act of violence with an instrument (gun, knife, etc) is the problem. You don’t blame a drunk drivers vehicle for the deadly accident. You blame the person who was irresponsible and knowingly committed a crime.
Any extreme political rhetoric you’ve noticed on the left is a direct consequence and in reaction to extreme political actions undertaken by the right.
Fuck around and find out. It’s really easy to just not fuck around and spread hate and violence everywhere you go, believe it or not. Kirk got what he wanted and worked towards inflicting on others.
Gun control is an issue you could reasonably go on either side on, but “it’s fine if we have a mass shooting every week if it means we get to keep our guns” is not. Neither is, you know, all the other fascist shit he was spouting.
Mainly due to his political views.
I am just curious, what exactly were these political views? And why do you think they are legitimate and not demagoguery?
The reason I am asking is that while living in the US, the impression I got is that most polemicists were demagogues. It was a method to get money, grifting so to speak.
This was a while ago, but I vividly remember several nominally anti-abortion politicians getting caught getting their mistresses pregnant and then pressuring the mistresses to get an abortion.
A vehicle’s main purpose is transportation. It has to be misused or weaponized to kill.
A gun’s purpose is to kill. If you pull the trigger, whether you want it or not, you are firing a bullet designed to be as lethal as possible.
So yes, I blame guns.
Of course he does. Pile the sins upon the scape goat before you exile it from the village.
All he wants is for his people to do some revenge for him against those who reject him. So yeah he’ll stoke that flame.
Did anyone seriously expect him to do anything other than to use a murder for political gain? When has he ever shown that he is anything other than a contemptable piece of dog shit?
I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t announced merch on his site to commemorate the moment and bank off of it at the same time. I feel like they had crap for sale when he got shot at within like 15 minutes.
Of course, that’s why my immediate reaction to his stayement was a dramatic eye roll.
