Charlie Kirk confirmed dead.
I’m completely apathetic to this news. I’m not going to celebrate his death. But I think there’s a lesson hidden somewhere in here, we’ll probably lots of lessons.
I’ve been playing Lead Belly’s Blue Tail Fly every few hours and substituting Monster for Master because i don’t know the lyrics very well
The Schadenfreude is flowing freely today.
Thoughts and prayers 🙏
Oh also “Now is not the time”.
Fucking wild that a right-wing YouTuber/social media influencer was assassinated on my birthday.
I’m genuinely sickened by how many people have been openly celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death, like having conservative views or supporting the right to bear arms literally makes you Hitler in their eyes. His two young childen have been robbed of their father, and people are still cheering like they’d genuinely use his grave as a gender neutral toilet.
Also, I worry this is going to be America’s Reichstag Fire or Kristallnacht moment. This could very well lead to pogroms against leftists and ethnic minorities.
Charlie was against empathy, you are being disrespectful by showing empathy to him and his family. Stop.
Also stop referencing the Reichstag fire as though the gestapo isn’t already rounding up immigrants and dissidents. You’re just afraid they’ll start targeting people who look like you (something that was already in the plan, btw).
Kirk was pro death penalty and thought children should watch executions.
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073
If you’re going to wring your hands over what people are saying about Kirk while ignoring the horrible shit he said then YOU are the problem.
If you’re going to say shit like “this is going to be America’s Reichstag” while ignoring the assassination of two democrats a few months ago and ignoring the attempted murder of Pelosi’s husband then YOU are the problem.
This guy’s propaganda helped result in the unnecessary deaths of millions during the pandemic.
Appreciate you saying this. I too worry that some will take this event as a call to action. We all need to chill with this left/right nonsense. These are our brothers and sisters that are getting killed. I don’t care if they had bad opinions, nothing good comes from celebrating a murder.
I agree that we should not ever celebrate someone’s death. Violence isn’t the answer. Sometimes it’s required to defend yourself, but it doesn’t solve problems.
With all that being said, if you think that motivation for his killing was that he was a right wing, 2nd amendment type, well, I’ve got some land in Australia I’d like to sell you.
The guy was genuinely horrible to a lot of non conservatives, and thought gun violence was “a small price to pay” for the second amendment.
Others have detailed his horrific viewpoints far better than I could, so I’ll just leave it at that.
As much as I don’t condone violence, I’m not going to get sad about someone I didn’t know, who held beliefs I don’t agree with, has died. I have some measure of sympathy for his kids. His spouse knew who they were marrying, so I have less sympathy for them, but the kids, in my opinion, are the victims in all of this, if anyone. They didn’t ask for this guy to be their father, and they certainly don’t deserve to lose their father in such a public and very visible way. I have zero doubts that they will eventually see the footage that’s floated around the Internet, if they have not seen it already. That’s a tragedy. They’ll have to see, in full color, the last moments of their fathers life.
I can only imagine the kind of trauma that could impart. I truly feel bad for those kids.
He was a lot worse than that - he was a legit purveyor of hate.
cry about it. him abd his extended circle killed far more people with their actions. they’re just not as blatant as a bullet to the neck :)
Thank you! I am shocked how few here understand that violence as an answer to hate will only further deepen the spiral of hate and violence. Y’all feel justified because the guy was a transhating fascist, but the right will see you guys celebrate and only take it as confirmation that the left are literal demons that have no empathy for two children robbed of their father.
He was literally in the process of blaming trans people for school shootings.
We are celebrating a fascist no longer being able to encourage violence against trans people.
Which is wild, because the fact that you are celebrating instead of a normal reaction (like, i don’t know, feel bad for his family or something) will lead to them feeling confirmed in their hate towards the left.
You don’t make progress by eulogizing someone who spent their life justifying violence against marginalized people.
His family can confront the hours of evidence he was a piece of shit and the families of the victims whose killers were motivated by his lies.
I’m not eulogizing Kirk at all. The guy got famous by spreading hate and lies. I’m not denying that he had a negative influence, nor am i saying that we have to tolerate this.
But being a hateful lying asshole doesn’t mean that a person needs to be just that (they can be a loving father at the same time, for example), nor that they don’t have the potential for change.
In addition i am convinced that violence will lead to more violence. I’m not saying that we shouldn’t speak up and fight against fascism. But by escalating the situation through violence we are justifying their view of the left as bad people.
For both of these reasons i am not celebrating this murder, but i condemn it.
they already hate the left. they just need a reason to take action. don’t be delusional.
I’d much prefer that they hated the left for made up shit (like trans or gac people being pedophiles) than for things where i have to reluctantly admit that they have a point (like the left celebrating a fellow humans death).
I can say that hate breeds hate and that his killing was a direct consequence of the environment he helped create. But i don’t support that violence. I don’t support the murder of a human being, even of someone i perceive as a bad person.
Americans.
31?! Hate really ages you.
"If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.
Roald Dahl, The Twits
Thoughts of malice, envy, disappointment, despondency, rob the body of its health and grace. A sour face does not come by chance; it is made by sour thoughts. Wrinkles that mar are drawn by folly, passion, and pride.
I know a woman of ninety-six who has the bright, innocent face of a girl. I know a man well under middle age whose face is drawn into inharmonious contours. The one is the result of a sweet and sunny disposition; the other is the outcome of passion and discontent.
James Allen, As a Man Thinketh
yeah i’ll keep my wrinkles if it means i have to give up my passion
Karma comes for us all.
The guy was a fuckwit, but that looked like a rough way to go. Has to be hard for relatives, knowing that the video is out there.
It may have been horrific, but there is poetry is being a career apologist for gun violence, to them die in the act of apologizing and blaming minorities for gun violence, to then die from the bullet of a gun.
His very last work, was “violence”.
I hope this inspires copycats.
Well, I hope he enjoys burning 🔥 in hell.
Relevant user avatar lmao
is this the mythical “good guy with a gun” that republicans promised?
“Prove ___ wrong.” Well now folks, how do we want to approach this angle?
“One reason why we don’t kill is because we are not used to it. I never killed anybody, but I have done just the same thing. I have had a great deal of satisfaction over many obituary notices that I have read. I never got into the habit of killing. I could mention the names of many that it would please me if I could read their obituaries in the paper in the morning,”
~ Clarence Darrow
Not if it keeps happening
