Charlie Kirk confirmed dead.

  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    1 day ago

    He was literally in the process of blaming trans people for school shootings.

    We are celebrating a fascist no longer being able to encourage violence against trans people.

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      1 day ago

      Which is wild, because the fact that you are celebrating instead of a normal reaction (like, i don’t know, feel bad for his family or something) will lead to them feeling confirmed in their hate towards the left.

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        You don’t make progress by eulogizing someone who spent their life justifying violence against marginalized people.

        His family can confront the hours of evidence he was a piece of shit and the families of the victims whose killers were motivated by his lies.

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          22 hours ago

          I’m not eulogizing Kirk at all. The guy got famous by spreading hate and lies. I’m not denying that he had a negative influence, nor am i saying that we have to tolerate this.

          But being a hateful lying asshole doesn’t mean that a person needs to be just that (they can be a loving father at the same time, for example), nor that they don’t have the potential for change.

          In addition i am convinced that violence will lead to more violence. I’m not saying that we shouldn’t speak up and fight against fascism. But by escalating the situation through violence we are justifying their view of the left as bad people.

          For both of these reasons i am not celebrating this murder, but i condemn it.

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          I’d much prefer that they hated the left for made up shit (like trans or gac people being pedophiles) than for things where i have to reluctantly admit that they have a point (like the left celebrating a fellow humans death).

          I can say that hate breeds hate and that his killing was a direct consequence of the environment he helped create. But i don’t support that violence. I don’t support the murder of a human being, even of someone i perceive as a bad person.