Too many nutjob AmeriKans with guns. If US authorities used the same firearm laws in Europe, over half of the potential gun owners would fail.
I can’t imagine living my life so on edge or angry that the door bell ringing would make me shoot someone.
Seriously. I’ll go to bed and leave the door unlocked, go for a run and leave it open so I don’t have to take keys.
Walk home through sketchy areas in the early hours of the morning and live in Manchester a pretty large city.
Twice in 42 years have I had someone try and attack me for no reason. Never had someone break into my house. Heck I went to work one day and left the keys on the lock outside and still nothing.
I’m very very glad I grew up in basically a 90’s teen drama town, where most people probably didn’t even own hunting rifles, or one newer than 100 years old.
Cop speak is always so frustratingly literal. They refer to the victim as “the male”. He’s 11. call him a kid and have some empathy
Even in the 2000s people would call the cops saying there was a robbery when they got dinged. We were like fucken 11 and a police helicopter came overhead it was fucken insane.
When little kids can’t even play simple pranks in your country without being shot, your country has serious issues that desperately need addressing (but won’t because the administration is so corrupt)
They have guns and the death penalty but somehow, they can’t put together that one leads to the other. It’s like the only thing that matters there is the profit from selling the equipment.
Had someone fire a gun at myself and 2 friends for doing this when we were teenagers. No vandalism, no destruction, just knocking on the door (friend happened to bang particularly fast and hard while screaming “Satan Loves You”) and hightailing it. I also live in the south, so guns a-blazin’, I guess.
I’ve also been threatened with a gun and other acts of violence for dressing in all black and not believing in some bullshit god. Police have also been called on me for sitting in front of the mall in my trenchcoat while waiting on my ride as a teen. And I’ve had a cop train a gun on me while my friends and I were goofin’ around in their backyard.
I’m not saying anything whatsoever would warrant this, but were the kids at least, like, throwing eggs? Knocking the mailbox over? To fire a weapon at someone for ringing your bell is just so unhinged that how could he even make it that far?
I don’t care if the kid threw a brick through my window, murdering a child is completely unforgivable and there is zero justification for it.
Imo, the only time shooting someone is even remotely justified is in the defense of someone’s life or as a very last resort when there are no other options.
Simple really. Guns are treated like kids toys in the good ol’ USA, and “every single mentally deranged psychopath absolutely HAS to be allowed to own one, 'cause that’s the only way to stop fascism” - The National Rifle Association 1871-present
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Oh but gun control laws are not needed are they America? But an old irrelevant document from 150 years ago says otherwise so clearly the matter is closed.
Even the “old west” had gun control.
Try 234 years for 2nd Amendment…
Actually, the document doesn’t really say that, it’s just that we love murdering children so much, that we pretend that is what it says.
But they need them for when the fascist government takes over! Oh, right, all the 2A people are on that side…
There’s always someone way crazier than you think, right in your own neighbourhood. And you never know what tiny thing will push them over the edge to do something like that.
So yeah, parents really need to teach their kids not to do annoying things like that. It can get them seriously hurt - or worse - messing with the wrong people. Us adults know that, children need to be taught that.
I know what you are saying, and i agree, except i don’t think the root of the problem is addressed. Those crazy people shouldn’t have access to guns.
Clearly this individual shouldn’t have access to them. We don’t know the guy’s history, but there certainly have been cases where people had known mental issues and still retained access to guns. That’s definitely a particularly scary thought.
Those few and rare cases… Looks at daily scrolling list of school shootings… So very rare.
Ooooo boy, prison loves them a child killer.
Even if he had stood his ground he wouldn’t be let off
I can’t imagine this happening in the Netherlands… Wtf…
It absolutely does happen here. Like this one for example: guy chases young girl with an axe after messing with his doorbell.
https://nos.nl/artikel/2438126-man-wordt-boos-om-belletje-trekken-en-verwondt-man-met-bijl
Don’t mess with the wrong people. You never know what’s going to push them over the edge/
That girl would have 100% been shot and killed if this happened in America.
Ja, Limburg. Vandaar. ;)
Edit: the axeguy was stopped by visitors of a local bar while pursuing the little girl. Noone got seriously injured and the unhinged moron was left in police custody.
Now, in the US these kind of stories have a different ending. In the US this guy would’ve shot the girl and rampaged through that bar.
…or really anywhere in the civilised world
Black?
Hispanic judging from the name.
Ding dong ditch used to be a staple of kiddie pranks… for fuck’s sake! Do none of these idiots have any real threat assessment? Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
At 11PM?
Well maybe not for an 11 y/o, but sure, high school boys are rarely any more grown up.
Bro I used to be out doing shit on the streets at sleepovers at like 3-4 am. 11 is not the justification that you think it is.
11 PM? So what? Is that when ‘the purge’ starts in that nasty rat hole state or what?
It’s when kids, traditionally, are in bed. But you do you if 35 year olds do the ding-dong ditch in your holler, sounds like you’re a good fit.
Who cares? They rang the doorbell and ran.
You only know that after the fact, from outside. I assure you the homeowner absolutely did not think of that at 11PM. Get real with your “who cares” nonsense.
You’re right, the correct response is to just start blasting
could you imagine the danger they were in by a 10 year old ringing a doorbell?? NO YOU CAN’T!
I think they are just stupid, scared people who watch Fox 24/7 and really think bad things are happening everywhere. Or to put it more succinctly, they are little bitches.
As someone raised by conservatives, it’s #2. They fantasize about being in a scenario where they have to defend their home with a gun. It’s a core component of being a conservative.
Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
Too many people are kept in check by fear of getting caught by the law and will turn into savage beasts at the slightest opportunity.
None whatsoever. They’re bloodthirsty savages. Itching for any excuse to murder someone.
I give it 2 weeks before the shooter is being interviewed on Fox. Whinging about how he’s really the victim of some nebulous “woke mob” that drug him online for murdering a child.
There is something ingrained in certain people I’m finding. I’m a big dude who can handle himself if need be, but I also have guns cause the state does too. Moved from a more liberal area to this purple pearl in a very red area. Had a girl over one night and heard some rustling outside the door. I put on pants and went to go check it out and she asked me why I wasn’t bringing my gun. Jackie, my sister in Christ, we are outside the downtown area of a fairly safe little tourist trap. At the absolute worst it could be is a small black bear that I just scream at. But I’m not going to jail for firing a gun near downtown(although that doesn’t tend to stop anyone else around here).
Do none of these idiots have any real threat assessment?
More that they’ve got a house full of guns, an ear full of “crime wave!!!” media, and a not insignificant amount of mental illness.
“If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they’re targeting my house for a burglary” is a thing lots of people unironically believe.
Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
Definitely elements of that, too. But in the sense of feeling like they want to be the hero of a story they’ve heard on Talk Radio.
A lot of these people are legit delusional.
“If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they’re targeting my house for a burglary” is a thing lots of people unironically believe.
Is this really a commonly held belief? The fuck? Makes no goddamn sense whatsoever.
“If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they’re targeting my house for a burglary” is a thing lots of people unironically believe.
God help me, I’m going to lose it with the next idiot that I hear this shit from. My parents constantly regurgitate simulacrums of that line. Somehow we’ve moved on foolish grans mass spamming the emails about people putting tags on your car at the gas station to follow you home… but it’s ‘moved on’ to the insidious new middle-aged twats on facebook losing their minds about shit like kids being kidnapped from their school by secret russian/chinese/iranian/democrat black-ops teams.
Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
It is exactly this. These are deeply violent people who are actively seeking any reason to hide behind the excuse of self defense.
