A new study published in the journal Sexuality & Culture has found that many adolescents in Spain, including those as young as 12, are not only aware of OnlyFans but also see it as a viable and even empowering way to make money. In group discussions with over 160 teenagers, researchers discovered that platforms promoting erotic content are influencing how young people—especially girls—view economic opportunity, self-worth, and sexuality. Teens frequently framed content creation as a personal choice or expression of agency, while minimizing the risks.

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    Do any of y’all pay for OnlyFans?

    Like, I am single and horny/lonely, but… I don’t get it, even theoretically. What’s the appeal of viewing some performer through a one-way digital window over the deluge of free content?

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      i don’t pay for it but it’s the only sexy content that i understand why people would pay for.

      paying for big companies like a porn site or a porn studio only to see them produce the same fucking formulaic bullshit over and over again is what i wouldn’t understand.

      paying for a single person who you might know from other things for a more personal feed and maybe custom content? yes. we live in the age of streaming, podcasts, patreon. people pay for these because it is or feels more genuine, personal, and interesting. plus there’s a lot of cases where you might know the person from youtube, or twitch or whatever, so it’s more interesting to some people than a studio pornstar. not that they don’t have their own content either.

      plus there’s the simple aspect of (more) directly supporting creators. people sub on twitch to people like hasan piker despite the fact that he doesn’t run ads and allows his content to be rebroadcast for free on YouTube by fan channels on top of his own channel. literally the only reason subscribe to his channel is to give him money. people do it because they think it’s worth it.

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      It’s a lot of money people. I have a gay friend doing only fans. Some stooge pays him $100 weekly just to call him every morning to say good morning.

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    Articles like this showcase a weird 180 in moral logic over the last century.

    On one hand ,it is now stigmatized for younger people to have sex and 12 year olds are not allowed to do OnlyFans because it is harmful for them.

    On the other hand sex and sex work is promoted as non harmful and a fun innocent activiy.

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    My ex saw onlyfans as a great way to make a living and express her sexuality after we broke up.

    It did not go as well as she thought it would.

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    Fascists: Omg, young people see online sex-work as a possible solution to their future bondage under capitalism!

    Me: Change the system so that they can have a future otherwise.

    Fascists: We’re more interested in overreacting.

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    I’m a 32 year old man with a receeding hairline. I too see OnlyFans as an appealing alternative to traditional work. Unfortunately no one else wants to see that.

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    Well, that’s probably the only people left who could get paid for porn. There’s lots of republicans on the internet.

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    Don’t like 90% of onlyfan people make next to nothing? I thought only a small portion of them can actually afford to do it “full time”.

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      Yeah, same thing with cam girls. A few popular ones can make a lot of money, but it’s pretty common to see rooms that are mostly empty with a bored girl waiting for tips and slowly getting more and more discouraged.

      There’s so much free porn on the internet. Including theirs, because there’s always people recording and wanting their own clout or money from sharing it. Though one plus side is due to the sheer volume of what’s available, the “once it’s on the internet, it never leaves” doesn’t always apply. And even that which stays can be hard for anyone else to find due to the noise.

      Though those who advertise their OF also advertise the search string to find it for free.

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      I am glad I will live in a world where I don’t have to worry about seeing my daughters selling their sex online. I will only indirectly see them sell it to their partners for protection and attention.

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    In all fairness, you don’t have to spend very long working in retail to feel like sex work not only probably pays much better, but is also probably a lot less degrading.

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      100% this. I’ve been sexually assaulted, spat at, threatened with the police, had a snake pulled on me (???). None of these things happen to you on only fans ( I guess you might have another kind of snake pulled on you eyyy) and you’d make significantly more money.

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    I mean, oldest profession and all that. Shouldn’t be surprising. When you can just fill mason jars with tap water and let the imaginations of some horny others do the rest, what’s not to like?

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        Yeah, some porn influencers (e.g. Belle Delphine) sold their “bath water” for, like, $500 a pop. They sold out in minutes. Desperate people are very easy to manipulate.

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    We are not religious in any way, for good reason. We also don’t necessarily shelter our kids. But my kids around this age don’t even know what Only Fans is. And them and their friend group never say or do anything even alluding to knowing or caring about these kinds of things.

    These kids are being exposed to something and some kind of authority figures are failing them.

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      They know what it is. My 11 year old knows what it is because of YouTube, memes, and such.

      Knowing what it is and actively viewing it because you know what it is are two separate things.

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        Your first failure in this response is a presumption that everyone’s kids have unrelenting access to YouTube, memes, or social media. Especially presuming parents are not at all making time to give the kids context as things come up due to school or otherwise, or as we open doors and give more independence.

        I know lots of neighborhood kids who are clearly patented much more closely and have no clue about this stuff. I also know some neighborhood kids that play GTA online every night.

        Parenting and children are not monoliths, and anecdotes aren’t truths for everyone.

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          Do you think most kids by the age of 12, haven’t seen any porn, at all?

          I know lots of neighborhood kids who are clearly patented much more closely and have no clue about this stuff.

          You then know a lot of neighborhood kids who have lied to you about their knowledge of this stuff.

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            Lovely how so many of you are just settled that all kids are liars and all kids are ruined by the internet and all kids are exposed to porn.

            Any other boomerisms from you? Sexist tropes? Bigoted stereotypes?

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              Yes, all kids (By and large) will lie to authority figures, if they feel they will be punished for a natural behavior they’ve been conditioned to believe is evil.

              And, I never claimed kids are ruined by porn. Period. Internet porn, or otherwise.

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                they’ve been conditioned to believe is evil.

                Some of the truth is revealed.

                Self-fulfilling prophecies are a thing. People struggle to grasp the alternative possibilities.

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          Either that, or the kids are simply lying to you because talking about porn with their parents is mortifying?

          Nah, not possible…

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            What a r/nothingeverhappens crowd this sure is.

            One of our kids friends also has zero fucking interest in TV, video games, or phones. Even when he has complete access, or his parents aren’t around. All he ever wants to do is go fishing or play outside. We SEE this happen in real time when they visit or at birthday parties.

            Another one only ever wants to read and write books. Physical books. Rejected tablet reading.

            Of course some kids we know play GTA. We talk with our kids and put context around things.

            But you know, impossible that some of these kids today just aren’t all shitheads and might not have heard of some porn out there, and impossible that some anecdotes aren’t universal truths.

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          You missed, “and such.” Behold the power of peers and socialization! My point is, they likely have heard of it.

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            Mine have always been in public county schools. We’ve also moved. They’ve been in more than one. They have friends from school, from the neighborhood, from other events like sports.

            Not everyone’s kids are the same. Not everyone kid wants to do or does the same shit.

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      how do you know they don’t know what it is? it’s hard to believe when every other twitch streamer and Instagram influencer has an account they promote from their main page.

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        Because I’m actually involved in their lives? They also don’t have unrelenting access to shit like Instagram and twitch.

        You can see the difference with the school or neighborhood kids who do (some, not all, they’re all different). We don’t necessarily restrict them from associating with those kids, but we frequently check in, ask about things, watch some of the interactions, and provide context as necessary. Always focusing on what it means for them. What is their gain/loss. Essentially avoid the “because I said so” and focus on why they care about something (it helps to think selfishly if you were in their shoes).

        Without aggressively steering their lives (like my parents did), it is interesting to me how when they’re just basically supported like independent humans, with respect, and some decent but not overbearing guardrails, they basically have no interest in some of that stuff. That’ll eventually change, but the peer pressure just doesn’t seem to click the same as 30 years ago.

        I think when you either don’t parent at all, or aggressively parent, you inadvertently push kids where they shouldn’t go. I would know cause I lived it. There’s a balance somewhere in there and I’m watching it happen IRL for years now.

        And to be clear, I am NOT tooting any horns. That’s what my parents did. It was all about their success being parents. Fuck no. My job is to raise functional adults. They are not my property or trophy. This isn’t about me or my success. Before anyone attacks that shit as usual. I’m just speaking honestly.

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          Um, I’m going to fill you in on a secret:

          Kids as young as 13 have nearly certainly viewed porn at some point.

          And yes, even when I was a kid, whose parents had pretty strict controls over things back in the 70s and 80s… Guess what? We had a porn stash in our “hideout” in the woods.

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          I don’t think like a parent at all. I’m 18. I just can’t imagine someone in junior high being that clueless because none of my classmates were. Heck even the Mormon kids in my class, arguably the most sheltered and naive, knew what content is available online because even if they didn’t consume it, because they have friends and talk to their classmates.

          what’s more likely? that a bunch of hormonally charged teens don’t talk about sexual topics, or that some aspect of a teenager’s life isn’t known to their parents?

          The odds seem to favor number two, in my opinion. sorry.

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        I don’t agree. I have a simple test which anyone cam do. Ask yourself- Would I promote my child (obviously once they become legal age) to do xyz?

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          Would you promote your child to work for ICE?

          There are lots and lots of jobs lower on the ladder than OnlyFans. If your litmus test is “Well, I wouldn’t want MY child doing it…” then it’s all down to personal morals not an actual inherent problem with the job.

          I’m not thrilled that my kid is out there creating AIs. I don’t mean prompt engineering, I mean as in “he’s a leader in the AI space, writing papers, speaking at conferences” kind of thing.

          But he’s safe, happy, seeing the world, and making a fuck ton of money so…

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          Ask yourself- Would I promote my child (obviously once they become legal age) to do xyz?

          I would not promote my child, once of any age, legal or otherwise, to be a:

          • Cop
          • Coal miner
          • Road crew worker
          • Soldier
          • Hedge Fund Manager
          • Debt collections specialist

          And a host of other jobs. So, those jobs are basically on par with sex work, correct?

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          Rather than banning, I’ll just explain why I think you’re a troll or an idiot.

          If you’re not rich you’re selling your body.

          Coal miners? Longshoreman? Farmers? Hell, sitting at a desk all day.

          They all sell their body.

          The only difference is you assume that it’s shameful if it’s sexual, or your trolling.

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              Upvote to bring you back to zero, because why not. I thought your other comment was a reasonable question, even if I don’t agree, and nothing I’ve seen from you so far seems ban-worthy (although obviously, the mods might disagree with me).

              To respond to your question - I wouldn’t promote my kid doing anything, really. I might put them in touch with experts, give them an education, or introduce them to useful people, but I can’t imagine any profession that my child could get into where I would go out of my way to “promote” their work.

              If they were of legal age and decided to get into porn or sex work, I’d advise being careful (especially for in-person work) and I obviously wouldn’t be consuming any of their content, but other than that, I’d let them make their own decisions. I don’t let my kid play sports that are going to permanently impact their mental function, and I wouldn’t advise professional wrestling or football as a career choice, but if they decided that that was what they wanted to do with their life, that’s up to them.

              I don’t see how porn is worse.

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          Under a properly implemented socialist system, it just wouldn’t have a reason to exist, and people would continue having sex the normal, non-exploitative way.

          Unless that’s your fucking kink or something, but that’s pretty niche and usually controlled between known parties.

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      As part of the woke crowd, what I want to see is the „mainstreamification“ of respect for and safety of the people in sex work. You know, because they’re people.

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        True. Nothing against the people. Problem with the work is that a lot of people do it because they are forced to or have no other options. It is very risky.