I know there are plenty of software missing from here. This is just a fun infographic I made, no need to take it seriously :)

    • Zetta@mander.xyz
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      15 days ago

      The post is about security /privacy, the non American ceos political opinions don’t impact that. Proton is still a good VPN/mail provider

      • krolden@lemmy.ml
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        15 days ago

        VPN services aren’t for security they’re for getting around regional blocks. If you want privacy build your own. But even then youll still be tracked

          • Drunk & Root@sh.itjust.works
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            15 days ago

            vpns are not anonymous just instead of your isp getting your internet traffic the vpn does theres also not a real way to verify what there doing on there servers unless your sitting inside of the datacenter monitoring it vpns where never supposed to be anonymous

      • edel@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        15 days ago

        The Proton CEO is quite active in twitter and participates in podcasts. Well, one day he praised one action of the Trump administration on antitrust and a whole community attacked him for “praising Trump” when he did only a nomination for Attorney General for the Antitrust division. I highly doubt he is a MAGA supporter and listening to him for 30min on any of the multiple appearances he was on, will confirm you that. Several things concerns me on Proton, the CEO’s ideology ain’t one of them.

        Unrelated to this, I wish people was more forgiven of Trump voters, it is not the monolithic the Left tries to portray it is. Trump sold himself as fighting the establishment, being anti-war and pro-antitrust (many small business owners supported him). People voted for him even suspecting he most likely was lying. Many people, both in 2016 and 2024, voted for Trump because Hillary was very pro-war (for instance she say she would attack Russian military directly in Syria) and Kamala proudly said she would not change anything on Biden’s policy in the middle of Gaza’s massacres. MAGA has many racists, many! (Democrats has is share too, but usually quieter but one can notice them at the grocery stores!) But what made Trump win was desperate disfranchised Americans with no other alternatives that promised Change. Europeans should keep quiet too… in the last elections they voted as different as they could demanding change to end up with Ursula von der Leyen for another term. Democracies in both sides of the Atlantlic are heavily ill and people, in desperation, vote for whoever promises change, independently of anything else.

        • Universal Monk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          15 days ago

          I wish people was more forgiven of Trump voters, it is not the monolithic the Left tries to portray it is. Trump sold himself as fighting the establishment, being anti-war and pro-antitrust (many small business owners supported him)

          Be prepared to accept accusations of being a fascist Nazi for saying this. You’re right, but Lemmy is so extreme on this subject, that if you aren’t with the majority, then you’re an evil nazi pig–regardless of reality.

          I still get accused of it and all I did was vote third party in the election. 9 months ago! lol

          • edel@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            15 days ago

            Screw me! I feel bad because instead of welcoming those now disenchanted MAGA, we are shunning them away and pushing them toward Musk’s new party and the like. We did same mistake after Trump’s 1st term too.

            • Universal Monk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              15 days ago

              Agreed. Lots of missed opportunities, and Lemmy is also shunning away their allies against Trump by overusing the words Nazi and Fascist to describe every poster that disagrees with Democrats. My gf, who is very very anti-Trump, lasted on Lemmy one day. One day!

              She said it was way too hateful and political. lol

              I feel bad even recommending it to her, and I don’t recommend it to any of my friends anymore.

              Lemmy will die in a few years because of it’s extremism. It’s already slowing down. But I’ll ride it to the end to prove to people that they didn’t bully me off of it. :)

  • Ardens@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    But you do know that Tor/VPN is not really privacy, nor security? It hides your IP, but that’s about it. If you still login, and give any information, and that could just be your “fingerprint” you are not anonymous…

    • swelter_spark@reddthat.comEnglish
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      15 days ago

      Hopefully you don’t log in or give personal info to every website you use. Hiding your IP is still more private than not hiding it.

    • The 8232 Project@lemmy.mlOP
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      15 days ago

      Encryption is a type of security, and Tor/VPNs encrypt your traffic. Accessing .onion sites over Tor is (at least in theory) more secure than accessing clearnet sites.

  • Lime Buzz (fae/she)@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    14 days ago

    I’ll go further than this and say that true security is where everybody has support enough to not want to steal your shit, hack you etc.

    Yeah corporations and governments are still a problem, for now, but both of the above parties would be far more secure if they did mutual aid, supported progrms to help the impoverished etc etc.

    Basically having a collective approach to security and not such a myopic individualistic one.

    • Allero@lemmy.today
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      15 days ago

      Well, unlike Bitcoin, Monero is actually anonymous, and sometimes you gotta make payments online.

      You can’t do it privately with your card.

        • Allero@lemmy.today
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          14 days ago

          Monero transactions consume orders of magnitude less energy than Bitcoin’s thanks to an ASIC-resistant algorithm

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        15 days ago

        Bitcoin’s Lightning Network has onion routing for privacy, like Tor.

        When Bitcoin had a bug that allowed some guy to give himself a bazillion bitcoin, it was detected and patched before he was able to sell them. When Monero encounters a similar bug, it will only be detectable by the price going down.

    • potatopotato@sh.itjust.works
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      15 days ago

      This is the correct initial reaction but given the extent to which the US monitors every single transaction everyone makes, it’s getting awful hard to manage the influx of feral hogs without having them streaming through your door.

  • lock@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    How is iCloud not secure or privacy focused? You make no sense with this list. iOS is insanely secure compared to stock android.