• prototact@lemmy.zip
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    2 hours ago

    This guy is such a slob and a loser. A lazy-do-nothing. Seriously, if he was not vice president, any reasonable person would tell him to shut up about his petty thoughts and go do something useful. and we have to listen to his BS. Goddamit.

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    less than 1 percent of shootings where four or more people were wounded in public were by trans people, and that over 97 percent of the mass killings were committed by cisgender men

    That’s a useless statistic on its own.

    Roughly 1% of the population is trans so they are neither more likely nor less likely. Just like ordinary people (despite being vilified). In fact, if you leave geriatrics out of the calculation, trans folk are less likely to commit these killings.

    So the author’s insinuation is correct despite their logic being wrong, however they are not going to convince pearl-clutching conservatives with that article as it stands.

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    Well if you start treating them like terrorists, some might choose that path. It is a very possible self-fulfilling prophecy. Especially when you threaten their lives like that.

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      That’s most likely the intention behind this. The right would be elated about news of actual trans terrorists.

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    Are all ya dumb fucks who refused to vote for Kamala happy?

    Ya happy all your trans friends are about to be sent to concentration camps so you could virtue signal your pathetic hollow support for Palestine (that’s actively doing far worse under Trump than under Biden BTW)?

    Hope all the death and destruction partially on your hands was worth you feeling like a special little hero for a few hours last November.

    • Something something both sides same.

      One side, forgive student debt and invest in infrastructure.

      Other side, masked agents kidnap off street, send people to concentration camps, and censor free speech.

      See, both sides same.

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      Ok, fine - everyone who didn’t vote is irresponsible and unreliable and a bad ally or whatever, and also let’s do Fox News’ work for them and blame left-leaning emancipatory movements for our problems.

      Now what? What viable allies, what options, does this frame of reference leave you with? What are you going to do now?

      I’ve spent a lifetime watching people blame the ones closest to them for their problems, while the real enemy is right in front of them. It’s a powerful human impulse, and it’s the primary right-wing impulse. I’m not foolish enough to think it’s ever going away. I can only hope, like I hope of right-wingers, that you’re not too far gone into rage and despair to understand what’s going on.

      I can only hope that at some point, before it’s too late, you’ll consider how far a political establishment needs to fall that the people it’s supposed to stand for find it less depressing to tune out; that the only people who engage with the system do it to bring in a guy who’ll tear it all down. I hope you’ll be able to direct your rage at the people who truly deserve it.

      I hope you find a way to work with the rest of us. Otherwise, I hope that you’re strong enough to fix this yourself.

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      Why is this stupidity still being repeated? God, I’m so tired of refuting it. I’m just gonna start calling you stupid and move on.

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      Literally all of those people are russian/chinese agitators and you got agitated.

      Lesson: make an effort to not get agitated. Learn to meditate or something. You can still have convictions and even get angry, but get angry when needed, not when somebody deliberately makes you angry.

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      I would love to know how many people actually refused to vote for Kamala for the reasons you stated. Obviously it’s not zero, but I have seen some variation of the “are you happy now?” comment hundreds of times, and I’ve never spoken to such a protest voter in real life. Or maybe they’re everywhere and they’re too embarrassed to admit it.

      Instead of pointing to gerrymandering, voter suppression and potential massive election fraud, the mass of comments like yours is starting to feel like straw manning.

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        My dude, look at the replies to my comments. These people are outing themselves.

        Guilty conscious maybe?

        Of course they would be more hush hush about their fuck up now. Who but the most imbecilic narcissists would say gleefully as minorities are being shipped end masse to concentration camps that they intentionally refused to act to stop it?

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      I’m trans and I didn’t vote for Kamala. Blue state, not like it even mattered. I have zero regrets about it on my part either. Since then all the liberals seem to be busy meeting the moment with capitulation and self-censorship, it’s clear they were never allies. I don’t care if I end up in a concentration camp, fuck this rancid ass country.

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        I’m trans and wish you wouldn’t project your not caring onto the rest of us. It only serves to show that you probably haven’t experienced anything even remotely close to concentration camps or the related dangers. I did not happily do it with a smile on my face, but I voted for Kamala because I knew that this exact thing would happen if Trump were elected. It was incredibly obvious. Gaza is even more fucked, even more bombed, gestapo is roaming the streets, and we’re actively discussing our community potentially getting sent to concentration camps.

        But you decided to not even try to prevent it. You decided that because Kamala wouldn’t completely stop the genocide in Gaza, that Gaza, immigrants, trans people, and minorities should all suffer even more.

        I’m not sure how you still feel good about your protest vote (being in a blue state doesn’t excuse it, either. You do not vote in a vacuum, especially when you talk about it online). If we ever get to vote again, I really hope you make better choices and don’t get caught up on a single issue. You should be able to choose the lesser of two evils, because if Kamala were elected, we would be in a better position to make actual, valuable change for things like Gaza, trans rights, and progressive reform. Obviously, we can’t know how much better of a position, but I can guarantee we would at least not be discussing how we’re going to be sent to the camps.

        I get that our community is hurting. Please don’t make it worse for us because you’re apathetic.

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        I’m trans and I very much care about not ending up in a concentration camp, please. (And yes I voted for Harris, but for the love of God can we take over the primaries next time, so the neoliberals are the ones holding their nose and voting?)

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          it would be nice if they actually decide to have primaries next time, I’m not holding out hope that elections are going to save us

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        yeah but your point of view doesn’t count because it doesn’t fit within their narrow, convenient narrative.

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        Since then all the liberals seem to be busy meeting the moment with capitulation and self-censorship, it’s clear they were never allies.

        It was never about being allies with the liberals. It was ALWAYS about choosing the best VIABLE choice for the working class, for minorities, for women, for our planet.

        And y’all dropped the fucking ball.

        Even in a garunteed blue state, action I spires action. Discourse even to just a handful, has an echoing effect to someone who can male a difference. But you lot lack any strategic vision or foresight.

        I don’t care if I end up in a concentration camp, fuck this rancid ass country.

        Spoken like someone who hasn’t experienced real danger and doesn’t even comprehend the real danger their in.

        If it means anything, I don’t give a fuck what happens to you specifically either. I give a fuck about the millions of innocent people who are now damned to death and suffering. And all of it could’ve been avoided if more leftists were actual fucking adults and observed the reality before them last November.

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          Even in a garunteed blue state, action I spires action. Discourse even to just a handful, has an echoing effect to someone who can male a difference.

          It was the democrats participating in a genocide for over a year in advance of the election that had the ‘echoing effect’ of making people not want to vote for their disgusting asses. Just being realistic, a trans anarchist in a blue state not voting for bomber harris has literally impact on how anyone else voted.

          But you lot lack any strategic vision or foresight.

          You’re the one acting like scolding people over votes while the gestapo is roaming the streets is accomplishing anything i-cant

          It was never about being allies with the liberals.

          They’re not credible opposition.

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            It was the democrats participating in a genocide for over a year in advance of the election that had the ‘echoing effect’ of making people not want to vote for their disgusting asses.

            The Dems were also the only party that hosted any politicians in power who opposed the genocide.

            Does the GOP have any that oppose the genocide (outside of the JQ like with MTG)? No.

            Was Biden and Kamala gearing to mass deport and arrest anti-genocide activists and demonstrators? No.

            Did Biden and Kamala give Netanyahu the greenlight to fully annex Palestine, and expand the war to include all of their neighbors, Iran and Yemen? No.

            You have to be TRULY delusional to think the genocide is about the same now as it was under Biden.

            You people couldn’t, for even a moment imagine it getting worse, even as the entire GOP was painting the picture for you in front of your face. Now its worse, exactly as everyone with a functional brain could for see.

            Your lack of strategic vision and foresight, and let’s be real your completely hollow virtue signalling for faux support, is your problem that you’ve made other peoples’ problems.

            Just being realistic, a trans anarchist in a blue state not voting for bomber harris has literally zero impact on how anyone else voted.

            Just being a realist, action inspires action. Complete apathy towards the issue “because I live in a blue state” objectively had an echoing effect onto swing states with other potential blue voters. You aren’t escaping culpability with your cope.

            You’re the one acting like scolding people over votes while the gestapo is roaming the streets is accomplishing anything

            You’re the ones who refused to act when it mattered most and was most easy to do so.

            I’m scolding you because you people enabled this shit to happen to begin with to feed your egos.

            No one who opposes fascism should ever turn to you, or anyone else who participated in the virtue signal boycott, for alliance against fascism. You are untrustworthy and unreliable.

            But hey, cope to protect your ego harder 🤡🤡🤡🤡 Again, I’m sure the feeling you got from virtue signalling is worth the end of any semblance of safety for you and everyone you love.

            They’re not credible opposition.

            1. Not you totally missing the point

            2. Y’all ain’t credible allies, antifascists, or even anarchists for that matter

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        Actually I think it’s vitally important that voters learn from this. Or you’ll all be doomed to repeat this mistake again in the future, if you get the chance that is.

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        No, actually, asshole.

        You and every other dipshit who boycotted Kamala contributed big time in getting us in this mess.

        You abandoned everyone who’s now suffering under fascism when your support came in the form of checking a fucking box on a paper and mailing it or giving it to the poll workers.

        We couldn’t trust you to be an advocate and ally when the support needed was the most simple in the world, and now you’re demanding we work together?

        FUCK YOU

        You are the absolute worst allies and advocates anyone could ask for. Why the fuck should anyone trust you assholes now?

        And how can you fucks possibly criticize the Dems when you’re just like them. Doing fuck all when everyone needs you to do something, and now that you’re in trouble too, only now are you pleading for cooperation and support.

        Fuck off. At least voting for Kamala would have prevented all of this. There is no benefit to siding with you people. Who the hell can trust you now?

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        Dipshit take and not what I’m saying.

        You dumb fucks didn’t fail the Dem party by boycotting Kamala.

        You dumb fucks **failed every US minority, woman, Palestinian and the countless other millions of vulnerable people who now suffer under MAGA fascism. **

        You abandoned the people you pretend to care for to virtue signal faux moral superiority and faux support for Palestinians. Now everyone except the worst of humanity is FAR worse off. And y’all contributed to that, so you could feel super duper special last November. Congratulations. Hope all the death and destruction was worth it.

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          I’m not a political party, or in charge of anything.

          Maybe you should direct your anger somewhere useful, like at those who were in power, or those who are seeking it.

          Or not, you do you buddy.

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        Virtue Signalling leftists when boycotting voting for Hillary didn’t turn the Dems left so why the fuck would boycotting Kamala do it?

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          Every year the DNC says “we got less votes this year! Must be the centrists voting for republicans, we gotta be more moderate!” and then somehow those folks turn around and say “the democrats are too moderate, if enough of us don’t vote, the DNC will see they are losing support and realize they need to come back left!”

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          Hillary explicitly told the left that she didn’t need their votes… I guess, in hindsight, she was wrong.

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            Irrelevant to what I said. Reread it.

            As leftists, we need to act in the best interests of the working class. If that means electing an arrogant cunt over a demented fascist, that means electing an arrogant cunt over a demented fascist.

            The left refusing to vote for Hillary in 2016 didn’t move the party left. We didn’t get Bernie, we got Biden.

            Why? Because a fascist presidency didn’t make people think “hey, we need a real progressive for real change”, it made people scared and panic vote for who they perceived was the “safest” vote, which was Biden.

            History will repeat itself (assuming we even have a fair enough election in 2028, let alone 2026).

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              you’re not a leftist if you’re actively choosing to advocate and vote for the Liberal presidential candidate. -That makes you a liberal, again, not a leftist.

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                Leftists actually cared enough about the working class and all marginalized persons that they actually bothered to research what the best viable option was for those groups, and accurately determined it was Kamala.

                Fake leftist virtue signalling pansies who’s support for such groups is entirely hollow and self serving on an almost narcissistic level instead boycotted voting for Kamala and quire literally bent over and gaped wide to allow fascists to win the election.

                The only fake leftists here are you.

                It is your legacy that you spoke for no one when it mattered most. Not ours.

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      Well, it was all worth it because something something “status quo” and we’d have a genocide in Gaza, or something.

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        The Gazan War was so cynically manipulated to votes against Harris that it makes you think if that was all planned too.

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        I will always understand having grievances for the democratic party because all they do is defend the status quo - I do too - but not voting over that is just fucking stupid. You want to change that? Go to protests, vote in primaries, support local initiatives for ranked choice voting, donate to causes you find actually beneficial, support local politicians that dont just support the status quo, support movements you believe in. If its about Gaza, speak up about that, donate tk humanitarian funds, etc. There are ao many things you can do that can impact these things. But refusing to vote does actually fucking nothing for that cause.

        There is no world in which more people refusing to vote for Kamala would have gotten us a better president or stopped genocide in gaza. Or really had any impact in any way that wasn’t making trump more likely to win. IMO the folks that did that were doing it more for themselves so they could feel morally superior because they didnt vote for the candidate that supported genocide or the “status quo” even though it literally never would have had any impact on either of those things.

        (And let’s be real - trump is way worse for Gaza than Kamala would have been. I’m sure she wouldn’t have done enough, just like Biden, but at least there are voices in that party calling out Israel. Those voices fall far more deaf on this administration’s ears)

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          Yep, I could not agree more. Seeing the smug and the self-righteous still proudly argle-bargling about Gaza is infuriating, if you ask me. I don’t know how many genuinely feel this way when it’s online - many could just be paid Russian stooges or bots, for all I know.

          But I do know a few IRL and when it comes up, it’s hard to keep my cool. It’d be one thing if they didn’t act so goddamned morally superior about it all. I’ve noticed that all of the ones I know of IRL are not in at-risk groups, other than a few cases being women and some being not active xtians (but raised xtian), if that counts. But all of them are white, all of them are at least middle class, none are gay/trans…probably most have the means to get the fuck out of this country if they really had to, etc.

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      No shit.

      Hey assholes - this is what the “worse of two evils” looks like! Remember it for the next time, if you get a chance again.