I’m looking for recommendations.

I have run Linux on my own computers off and on for the last 10 years. I’m not an advanced user, but I’m comfortable enough playing around with different distros and settings to find a good fit for myself and my own devices, and problem-solve as needed.

But now with the end of Windows 10 looming, I need to upgrade a family member’s computer to Linux. This device is only used by people whose attitude toward computers is “if it doesn’t just work, it’s too hard and I can’t engage”. So this needs to be something that both is not going to break on its own (e.g. while doing automatic updates) and also won’t be accidentally broken by the users. As well as not being too steep of a learning curve for Windows users. (Their needs are uncomplicated - mostly just LibreOffice and Firefox, both of which they already use.)

Mint is often recommended for inexperienced Windows refugees. But I’ve had several things break in the process of getting Mint installed and updated on this machine. That wouldn’t be an issue if it were my own computer, but it’s not filling me with confidence that this is going to meet the ongoing “just works” requirement for this device. There’s no way I’m going to be able to handle long-distance tech support if things break more than once in a blue moon.

Which other distros would you recommend for this use case?

Thanks in advance.

  • solrize@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    13 hours ago

    Debian with the MATE window manager (looks like older Windows) worked pretty well for my mom after I set it up for her. I don’t think she ever figured out that it wasn’t Windows.

  • LeFantome@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    14 hours ago

    All the normal folks I have moved over use Mint. It is not the distro I use. It has worked great for them. No complaints.

  • dil@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    19 hours ago

    People tend to reccomend the only one theyve tried lol, id say de matters more, most distros will just work in my experience, and most of them use guis for grabbing apps with the terminal being optional, Mint is an obvious pick, with cinnamon de being easy to use, prob wouldn’t reccomend gnome with extensions unless you’ve already used linux for a few months, most other des have a solid default experience and easier (more straightforward) customizability

    • dil@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      19 hours ago

      Anduin Os is ubuntu gnome themed like windows 11, could be an easier transition

  • dajoho@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    20 hours ago

    Bazzite Gnome- a hidden gem, as many think Bazzite is just for gaming, but it also has a great desktop mode. Pretty much indestructible (immutable), polished, pretty, has a modern kernel (so good driver support) and has Firefox and Libreoffice installable as Flatpaks. Great for kids and grandmas.

  • DigitalDilemma@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    I moved my wife’s laptop to Debian with Cinnamon as a desktop. She loves it and is as technophobic a person as I know…

    Auto login, automated-updates set up, remote backups. She just has to open the lid and firefox is there, which is 95% of what she wants. Libre office is around for the remaining 5%.

    This is someone who used to get angry at Windows forced updates and reboots, so not having any of that improved her quality of life.

  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    Fedora kinoite for windows-minded users. Fedora silverblue for everyone else.

    That’s what I’ve used for the old people I do tech work for and except for one who thinks Microsoft invented everything and nothing without MS branding is legit, they are all happy.

  • MXX53@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    I would go for mint.

    I want to suggest something immutable, but even when I use it, I have just had some issues occasionally or when trying to get the one off software here and there.

    Of all the people in my family, even elderly, mint has been the easiest transition and I have very rarely needed to perform any additional maintenance outside of doing updates for them here and there.

  • koala@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    But now with the end of Windows 10 looming, I need to upgrade a family member’s computer to Linux.

    Why?

    Did they ask for Linux? Do you have authority over them?

    So this needs to be something that both is not going to break on its own (e.g. while doing automatic updates) and also won’t be accidentally broken by the users. … There’s no way I’m going to be able to handle long-distance tech support if things break more than once in a blue moon.

    Issues appear. I would be more focused on setting up remote access than choosing a distro.

    I’d choose something LTS that has been around for a while (Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL-derivatives, SuSE if there’s a freely-available LTS, etc.).

    If you are not against the use of Google products, ChromeOS devices are about the best well-designed low maintenance operating systems. (Not Flex, a ChromeOS device.) But you would be sacrificing Firefox and LibreOffice, which might not be an option. (And technically, it’s running a Linux kernel, if I remember correctly.)

  • WFH@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    Any one of the uBlue projects is perfect for this use case.

    KDE: https://getaurora.dev/
    Gnome: https://projectbluefin.io/
    Gaming: https://bazzite.gg/

    Install and setup once, run forever. Immutable so impossible to break for a tech illiterate user, no package upgrades fuck-ups because updates are atomic and don’t touch the currently running system, are done in the background and are completely invisible for the user, great hardware support, based on Fedora. Users can only install Flatpaks through the App Store.

    The only “maintenance” needed is a weekly reboot to move to the latest OS image.

    As a personal feedback, I moved my gadget enthusiast but tech illiterate father on Bluefin. He can ruin a Mac in less than a few months. He can generate undocumented bugs on iOS by his mere presence. But somehow, Bluefin is still running perfectly after a year. That’s how robust it is.

    • OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      19 hours ago

      I vote against immutables. Been there and it’s not if something breaks it’s when. I had to completely reinstall my kiniote. Trust. Go with Mint LMDE to be exact skip ubuntus bullshit.

  • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    Since tech illiterate people don’t really care what’s under the hood as long as it works, I would choose anything with Cinnamon desktop: Gnome is a little alien for newcomers, KDE and XFCE are far too easy to screw up if you don’t know what you’re doing.
    If Mint doesn’t work well with you I would suggest either LMDE, stock Debian or the Fedora Cinnamon spin (in this order of priority)

    • 7eter@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      I would love if there was an atomic Cinnamon spin. Fedoras Atomic Budgie version gets close but I think I still prefer god old Mint Cinnamon. There is hardly stuff that to simply break anyhow.

      • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 days ago

        Yeah I have zero experience with atomic distros so I don’t feel like suggesting those, but I have seen good comments in this thread about those as well

  • muhyb@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    These days I just install Aurora Linux for this kind of situations. It’s exactly how you described it. Haven’t heard complains about it yet and their tech service needs from me almost dropped to zero.

  • RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    If you(they) don’t mind having outdated software Debian stable might be worth looking into. Otherwise there are immutable distros which are very hard to fuck up, and even if you do there is the option to rollback to the previous version. I’d recommend Aurora or Fedora (fedora doesn’t include some proprietary stuff like some codecs so if you need that it’s probably better to use Aurora).

    Linux Mint also has a version based on Debian stable, LMDE, which is could also be an option. It’s not as stable as Debian as it adds its own stuff but has the out of the box experience.

    As general advice I’d suggest using less packages and more flatpaks as a faulty flatpak update can only break that flatpak, not your system. For packages be sure to disable online updates, meaning you have to reboot to apply them. This isn’t as convenient but if stability is that important to you I’d go for it

  • Sina@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    Just go with Aurora (or Bluefin), that’s the way to go for tech illiterates. Most of these recommendations are 5 years out of date, like why recommend Ubuntu or Zorin, when those are almost the same as Mint.

  • untorquer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    Windows 10 will still be usable after support ends. Security is the only concern, and not that big of one if you regularly back up. It may be a good idea dual boot with Linux on a separate drive while you hammer out the issues with whatever distro.

    I personally think anything with plasma 6 will fit for interface coming from windows. Some sort of distro like Ubuntu or Debian that commonly has pre-packages in the wild would make sense.

    • boomzilla@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      Better install Windows 10 IoT and get support till Jan 2032. As a Bonus the, so I heard, best version of Windows 10 will probably phone home minimally to never, won’t rearrange your startmenu, won’t install Candy Crush again and maybe not reset settings so aggressively after updates. Can imagine stuff like news, wallpaper of the day or the graphics in the search bar is left out too.

      here and it is AFAIK legal and indirectly tolerated by Microsoft as it is hosted on github. I want to try it on Proxmox where I successfully installed 10 with GPU pass through recently. Using Linux for 8 years now after being a long time Windows user.

      IIRC they offer a way to install 11 without the hardware restrictions too on above site. I don’t know how the gaming situation on 10 (IoT) is and and how much Nvidia, AMD and Intel will still support 10 from now on.