As the title suggests, over the last couple of days there’s been an influx of doomer comments over the SKG petition. While it’s fine to disagree, I’m finding it suspicious that there weren’t comments like this posted a week or 2 ago

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    9 days ago

    Maybe he meant me? (Thank god karma doesn’t exist here)

    I just wrote a comment on how it’s interesting from a philosophical angle that we’re willing to petition the preservation of our distractions but not the thing we need ever more distraction from.

    Don’t bother with downvoting, your brothers and sisters already nailed me to the cross, covered me in tar and dragged me through 30km of molten lava.

    I haven’t changed my mind.

    Not a single person I know has significantly changed their behaviour due to the climate emergency. Imagine if we had this kind of rallying support to put an end to fossil fuels tomorrow.

    But that doesn’t directly benefit anyone

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      9 days ago

      The vast majority of people are not contributing significantly to climate change compared to the big players like the oil and gas industries and the big moving industries.

      If you want to make for effective change, stop whining like a street corner crazy picketer and push against those actually doing most of the polluting.

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        9 days ago

        See that sounds like a good counter argument on the surface but it is very flawed.

        By just blaming big corporations and pointing the finger, your missing two important factors:

        1. The big corporations do what they do because of consumers like you and me.
        2. by shifting responsibility and effectively saying it’s okay to pass the buck, you’re telling people it’s okay to not have this front and center every day.

        As much as I like blaming big corporations, we got here (and every point in human history before us) because of what the masses did or neglected to do.

        So as inconvenient as it must be, until we pop out of this us vs them, the corporation expected lifespans can be centuries, human’s are finite, and if you keep that whataboutism alive, will get a lot shorter soon.

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          8 days ago

          Tell me you do not understand how the economy works without telling me you do not understand how the economy works…

          Personal consumers haven’t driven the oil industry for decades upon decades by now. Please learn how massive corporations function before you continue to embarass yourself.

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            9 days ago

            Set the graphics quality setting of your game to low for a start.

            And then probably start an AI chat to give you a tailored list of things you can do based on your age, education, location and family situation.

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              9 days ago

              So I should save a few watt-hours and then burn a few thousand more for an AI query? I already play on a Steamdeck or read so some wanker can fly a few more centimeters with his private jet.

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          8 days ago

          The big corporations do what they do because of consumers like you and me

          Which is why they run a non stop barrage of advertisemenr campaigns to brainwash the consumer into…

          Oh. Wait. No.

          That would mean the corporations basically tell the consumers what to do, and they basically listen.

          Well, dang, thank god it’s not like they bankroll politicians to the point of individual citizen campaign donors being largely of no effectiveness whatsoever in the vast majority of…

          Wait, whats that Jamie?

          That is how shit works…?

          takes long toke

          Fuck.

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      9 days ago

      It’s interesting, but it’s also completely unrelated aside from a larger discussion about what people can spend their time and energy on? The obvious answer is “people can care about more than one thing” and the secondary response is about how this initiative is easy to participate in compared to limiting climate change. If you could just sign an online petition to limit the effects of climate change I am quite certain it would get just as much or more support… so false equivalency/over exaggeration of what “this kind of rallying support” is. And yeah, limiting climate change directly benefits a lot of people. I would love it if the treasured forests near my home weren’t burning to ash more and more every year, disappearing all the places I loved to go.