The fact that you can’t argue the VGE’s involvement or anything other than a word’s definition really doesn’t make you look like you have a strong case here lol.

So you’re just ignoring all the other points I made earlier? On top of refusing to acknowledge that you don’t know what words you’re using?

Concise is synonymous with “to the point”.

No. The word you are looking for is “succinct”. You’re doubling down harder than PirateGames at this point, and with you including some egotistical snark at the end of every comment and claiming that you can’t possibly be wrong just further demonstrates that you’re a walking example of Dunning-Krüger syndrome with entitlement issues.

Get over yourself. Instead of petulantly whining about a petition on the internet, go and do something actually productive with your life.

Tbf, Collective Shout group is actually Australian

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concise

Concise:

marked by brevity of expression or statement : free from all elaboration and superfluous detail

Aka, “short”.

The petition absolutely is ‘concise’. You just have no idea what that word means.

Using fancy words in an argument only works if you actually know what those words mean.

Not only that, a long petition containing lots of details has its own drawbacks. For one, fewer people will read it and/or understand it, which will make it easier for detractors to confuse the general public with misinformation.

For example, indie games like Objects in Space. It was Early Access and ran into technical issues which led to funding issues as they could only work so long on it. Its broken essentially. But it doesn’t matter if the project was beyond their scope of skill or they ran out of money, they would be forced to pay to fix it.

First off, that studio will not be forced to go back and fix their game. Western democratic governments, including the EU, works on the basis that ex post facto laws are invalid. The game is already dead and abandoned from your telling, so there would be no expectation to revive it.

The true solution for studios making new games in the future is to implement exit strategies for multiplayer implementation early on in development. And for single player games, much of that exit strategy is to not require login servers after the game is abandoned.

And to address your specific example, there is one option that is extremely cheap and easy to implement that will certainly pass requirements: release the sorce code. If a EA game is truly so bungled that it’s better off abandoned, studios and publishers will always have the option to fully abandon it.

The moment that petition started to get close to 1M, you know publishers started turning gears to block future legislation.

You’re forgetting this is the EU, it’s significantly less susceptible to industry lobbying than the US. If it wasn’t the GDPR wouldn’t exist and Apple would still be using their proprietary chargers on all new iPhones.

The points needed to be concise for the purpose of the fact finding committee.

Have you not read the petition? I doubt it could be anymore concise in its language while still being possible to pass. You can’t specify exact implementations for games post-abandonment because any single solution will not work for every game.

There really is no solid argument against what I’ve said.

That is a claim befitting an egotistical fool. But at least now you can’t complain that nobody has addressed your concerns, as you claimed in your first comment.

Perhaps, which I think is really unfortunate.

I’m not concerned with it. I’ve looked into it a bit, and it seems like PirateSoftware ruined his own reputation. It just took his very visible cockup in that WoW raid for people to realize that he lies a lot and refuses to acknowledge when he’s wrong.

I think he misread or misunderstood what the petition was about

Possibly. I’m not going to speculate on that because it’s not really important.

But he’s not going to be making a bunch of accounts on random message boards like Lemmy to try to kill it.

I doubt it as well. I’m more suspicious of corporate astroturfing. And Lemmy isn’t too small of a target for it, since astroturfing is pretty cheap.

Perhaps, which I think is really unfortunate.

I’m not concerned with it. I’ve looked into it a bit, and it seems like PirateSoftware ruined his own reputation. It just took his very visible cockup in that WoW raid for people to realize that he lies a lot and refuses to acknowledge when he’s wrong.

I think he misread or misunderstood what the petition was about

Possibly. I’m not going to speculate on that because it’s not really important.

But he’s not going to be making a bunch of accounts on random message boards like Lemmy to try to kill it.

I doubt it as well. I’m more suspicious of corporate astroturfing. And Lemmy isn’t too small of a target for it, since astroturfing is pretty cheap.

And what is your argument against the petition? All it says is that developers need to leave their game in some playable state for those who laid for it, with several options offered as examples

This is exactly my point for the post, though your take is better worded

Nothing, but that doesn’t stop people with Americabrain from making terrible comments here.

The EU has a record of actually passing pro-consumer legislation such as the GDPR and forcing companies to use standardized cables. Claiming that nothing is going to happen because of lobbying doesn’t hold up nearly as well as it does in the US

You literally couldn’t be more wrong

This is an EU petition, not the US.

Doomers coming out in force today

Worker protections and their enforcement have improved in recent years, but things still aren’t fully there yet.

You’d think they’d have fixed it faster, since it’s the primary factor in why so few Japanese people are having kids

I recall an episode of Behind the Bastards where they explained how the “flat Earth” conspiracy theory was literally the core of a Nazi splinter group that was never stamped out

Visa and Mastercard would like to know your location

This. Personally, I’m scrambling to get all my shit sorted out on my desktop before switching over

That’s still not how progressive tax systems work. In your example, it’s the first 20k is taxed 23%, then the next 32k is taxed 25%, then the next 50k is taxed 35%.

So if you made 52k in a year, the first 20k yields 4.6k in taxes, then the remaining 32k yields 8k in taxes. Leading to a total of 12.6k in taxes, or an effective rate of ~24.2%

I wonder if you could eventually get it built into Bazzite

Only when someone is talking in good faith, which you clearly aren’t. Begone, troll.