I was once told that Tylenol wouldn’t pass today’s standards of the FDA. I believe it. Pretty sure that it’s the second leading cause of liver failure… Don’t both ibuprofen and naproxen last longer?
Tylenol is definitely bad for you, but it doesn’t cause autism.
Will he use fake studies hallucinated by chatGPT for this report, too?
Honestly, this is probably one of the better outcomes. Hopefully ibuprofen works well enough for pregnant people. He could have agreed with “vaccines cause autism” thing to fuel his attacks on vaccines. Or worse, he could have noticed that genetics play a big part and started a eugenics program.
Tylenol.
Acetominaphen.
… Arguably the most common component of general, over the counter pain relievers… on the planet.
I mean…
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406
Here ya go, here’s a 2024 study debunking the thing that RFK is likely referencing.
What education, qualifications, experience and/or expertise does this clown have? As far as I know, the only thing he knows about “pharma” would have come from his heroin use.
He said a bunch of shit that the country’s most fearful and illiterate people loved to hear, he validated the fringe conspiracy theorists which breeds a kind of obsessive love that you can’t buy with all the campaign money in the world, so Trump tapped him to keep pied-piper’ing the segments of rats who would vote for having a live porcupine stuffed down their pants if it meant validating the ONE topic that scares them the most. In this case, “mainstream science.”
Yeah, these are the sister-fuckers that BOOED their god-emperor Taco when he bragged about the vaccines (that he had next to nothing to do with - if anything we should be thanking Obama).
Because Taco is such a goddamned pussy, he backed off supporting the vaccines.
Because Taco is such a goddamned pussy, he backed off supporting the vaccines.
Nah it’s just he knows it doesn’t matter now. Nobody in the base he’s trying to hold onto looks into the past in any capacity. It’s done and over. It’s a new narrative now.
Trump and his “people” could start throwing babies in wood chippers on the white-house lawn today, and in 6 months they will say it never happened and their base will purge it from their memories like ballast and never revisit it. We are still underestimating how stupid a good 30% of the country is, and how moderately stupid the rest are.
The right is celebrating Trump and RFK Jr. right now. I wish we didn’t have so much “satisfaction porn” being circulated on social media highlighting how stupid Trump and RFK are, and showed more how unopposed they are. I swear a good 90% of the left in this country still thinks we’re scoring points and that any day now, it’s going to reach a point where someone is going to “do something.”
Someone diagnosed him as being ASD at some point in his life and he’s still mad about it because internalised ableism
No one’s that determined to bash autism unless they’re hiding a tism or two
If he just acknowledged his damned tisms he’d be able to get rid of the fucking rage trigger instead of taking it out on government policy in angry confusion
I had to look twice to make sure it wasn’t The Onion. I pray to the god that doesnt exist that the world somehow recovers from this and people look back at this chapter of human history as the time we finally learned not to let fucking idiots be in charge…
Anti-intellectuallism is a repeating story in world history. Something about human genetics makes our communities susceptible to this. Khmer Rouge and China’s Cultural Revolution are a couple of examples of these movements gaining control of a government. Witch hunts (any woman with knowledge perceived to threaten church teaching must burn) were a long standing practice often driven from non-governmental actors.
It always passes, but previous iterations have taken decades or hundreds of years.
Witch hunts were something extremely special.
Did you know that during the middle ages witchcraft was actually denied by the Roman Catholic Church? As in they denied witches existed despite biblical mentions. In some parts of Eastern Europe it was even a crime to accuse a woman of Witchcraft.
So what happened? In the same way that the internet made knowledge extremely easy to obtain, it also made misinformation able to spread like never before. The printing press did that. There was exactly one book on Witchcraft published towards the end of the Middle Ages that got widespread circulation due to the printing press. Then Witch burning and trials became common.
Its nuts to think that.
I hadn’t previously come across the printing press as an influence on witch hunts, interesting. It is pretty far down the Wikipedia article, though, and a different book printed almost two hundred years later is also cited as highly influential. I devoutly hope we are not in for two hundred years of unchecked social media and AI driven misinformation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_hunt
…in 1487, Kramer published the notorious Malleus Maleficarum (lit., ‘Hammer against the Evildoers’) which, because of the newly invented printing presses, enjoyed a wide readership. It was reprinted in 14 editions by 1520 and became unduly influential in the secular courts.
The 1647 book, The Discovery of Witches, soon became an influential legal text. The book was used in the American colonies as early as May 1647, when Margaret Jones was executed for witchcraft in Massachusetts, the first of 17 people executed for witchcraft in the Colonies from 1647 to 1663.
This is the phrase/term ‘medieval witch hunt’ is inaccurate. Witch hunts and trials didn’t start until the early modern period and didn’t reach their peak until the 17th century.
Of course you could make the argument that despite it being ‘early modern’, most people’s mindsets were still positively medieval. There was a hell of a lot of superstition and all manner of weird crap in daily life and even in the legal system. For example, it was believed that the corpse of a murder victim could point out its murderer if the murderer interacted with the body in some way. Another thing is the belief in ‘life force’ (I forgot the term they used) for people who were murdered or executed. The reason is that since those people’s deaths were not natural, their bodies still had surplus ‘life energy’ that could be used to heal the sick or dying. Obviously that didn’t work, but it still tells you a lot about their mentality.
Also in medicine and medical thinking, while there was steady experimenting happening in higher society, for the average person who rarely saw a ‘real’ doctor, many people were still thinking in terms of the 4 humours as late as the very early 19th century, with a lot of medical thinking being ancient, like thinking that some pastes and medicines made from worms would help to heal scars since worm bodies look a little like scars themselves.
Yeah, the age of the Non-Expert and the stupid people that think that’s a good thing.
Like the podcasters on Professional Left say, I want some of these assholes that vote for this shit (“because Taco is not a politician!”) to have their fucking teeth drilled by “not a dentist”.
FFS.
Assuming autism is “caused” by something and there is an “increase” of cases (not just diagnosis). Shouldn’t we start checking on Monsanto and the pesticides before anything else? Why are they obsessed with vaccines and medications?
Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people? The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases. You can’t measure anything if you don’t look for it in the first place.
The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases.
Everyone knows this but they are letting them re-write reality anyway. They did this with Covid, an actual lethal virus that killed over a million Americans. We may never know the actual death-count because of conservative administration efforts to decrease diagnosis numbers. And they were OPEN about this, and we didn’t march on DC then, so I don’t expect it’s going to get much better going forward.
This is a really important point. Diagnoses go up with each revision of the DSM (at least in the US, as it’s put out by the American Psychiatric Association) because the authors are intentionally making the criteria more expansive.
To be clear this is policy and guidance playing catch up with reality, and it still hasn’t caught all the way up.
Be wary of anyone conflating increases in rates of diagnoses with rates of occurrence, anybody talking about changes in rates of autism diagnoses that fails to speak to this is either being disingenuous or are themselves the victims of others disingenuity.
It’s like putting down mousetraps and then being surprised to find mice in them. The mousetraps don’t increase the number of mice (ideally they decrease them!) but they can change your perception of how many mice there are by increasing opportunities for exposure.
Not to mention if you read how people who lived before modern medicine were described, you can guess if they were autistic or add. Not to mention the ones who were very low functioning were a secret kept at home or institutionalized.
Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people?
That’s exactly what the person you’re replying to meant by…
“increase” of cases (not just diagnosis).
I was deeply saddened in the midst of Covid when I realized that is actually a difficult topic for people to understand. I thought people watched Sesame Street growing up, I thought they could do things like “count” or understand that different kinds of numbers mean measurements of different things.
Nope. Most people are disconnected from anything deeper than the immediate narrative they’re fed. No matter their political affiliation or supposed values, people have just broadly turned off their capacity to reason things out.
I had a full-on mental-health episode when I realized how bad it was. I had people in my own family who complained endlessly about having to wear masks when they went out, and immediately ripped the masks off their faces when they came inside a house or store and only wore it outdoors. I couldn’t get some people to understand what a virus is on the most abstract level.
The lack of basic understanding how biology and other grade-school level understanding of the world works needs to be uncovered. We’re in a crisis. This level of ignorance we’ve allowed to develop will literally ruin the world. It’s already in progress.
doesn’t it take one pregnancy to prove this wrong? all you need is a mother of an autistic person who didn’t use Tylenol while pregnant.
They might just tell her she did use Tylenol while pregnant, she just forgot/took it without knowing.
Not really. A link doesn’t mean a necessary causation. It doesn’t have to be exclusively caused by tylenol. Skin cancer is linked to excessive sun exposure, but it can occur without it, and likewise, not everyone who is experiencing increased UV exposure gets skin cancer. Not every smoker gets lung cancer, not every lung cancer is caused by smoking (IIRC only 50% of lung cancer patients are smokers - it’s just that not 50% of people are smokers). But a certain risk factor increases the occurence of a disease.
I guess what you are thinking of would be comparable with FASD, a mother who has a child with fetal alcohol syndrome but never drank any alcohol during pregnancy would disprove the causation. My guess would be that this isn’t what they are going for but a vague “it increases the likelihood of the child developing autism”.
fair, but i expect much worse from this dipshit
Well, this is the worse scenario. If he goes down the “FASD route” it will be rather easy to debunk. An “increased risk” route will be much vaguer, more believable, and harder to disprove.
This might also go down the route of “if it wasn’t safe in the womb we should think twice about giving it to my baby who has a high fever” resulting in brain damage and death. (For the record: Fever is good, but high fever in babies is dangerous.)
This, then, adds up to “I didn’t give my baby tylenol when it had a fever, then it was hospitalized, they gave tylenol after all, now the kid has XYZ, it was the tylenol”.
That’s like saying driving drunk isn’t dangerous because one person got home fine.
what? not at all. your comparison would be appropriate if i said one pregnancy where the mother takes Tylenol but the kid doesn’t have autism
Except its more likely ibuprofen that is possibility.
Thank you for being a real-world example for why people need to stay in school and get their High School diploma.
easy solution here is for all republicans to get themselves sterilized.
He will not make that link because it’s not there and literally nobody can.
He may, however, lie and be wrong.
No no he wants pregnant women to start taking ibuprofen.
Next up, the rise in prenatal mortality is linked to Democrats somehow
I link this worm infested brain dead twat to a very large piece of shit.
Brace yourself, folinic acid and acedomediphine are about to be politicized. I’m reading up before the noise is too loud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folinic_acid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol
And the pages are locked, if not defaced, lol.
Why will they be politicized?
There are a couple of historical examples that escape my soft brain, but ivermectin is a big one.
Basically, during COVID-19, some rural doctor in India published a paper on Ivermectin reducing COVID fatalities. Which is great!
…Because Ivermectin is a livestock dewormer. It’s an anti-parasitic, so it reduced the chance of co-infection with parasites in rural India (which would weaken your immune system so you’re more likely to die of COVID).
But the anti-vax crowd lost this nuance in the paper and ran with this as an alternative treatment, misinformation that still persists today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin#COVID-19_misinformation
…That’s whats about to happen.
Tylenol (acedomediphine) will be forever linked to causing autism, true or not. No one amount of refutation is going to kill the meme.
And Folinic acid, whether its a provably effective treatment or not, is not going to get touted by the anti-vaxx crown who ‘believe’ in its efficacy.
Good news for Canadian fentanyl super labs.
This report will result in a massive lawsuit by Kenvue.
This is crazy and is going to get so many more people hooked on opiates.
With the plethora of other NSAIDs, would opiates be the next recourse anyway?
I already tend to avoid acetaminophen since the others are better liver wise anyway.
Yeah. The liver part is why I also avoid it. Especially if you like to have a few drinks every once in a while
Maybe not relevant, but Tylenol (acetominophen) isn’t classified as an NSAID. Whatever, I see no reason to trust RFKj on any matter of health, medicine, or pharmaceuticals. The man is an uneducated crank who achieved his position in trade for asskissing.
If RFK Jr. Was born just one generation prior, his family would have disowned him and placed him in a mental institution. He benefitted from being born to a fairly liberal family.
Tell that to his sister Rosemary.
She was born one generation prior… and yeah, a girl. She got fucked.
NSAIDs can’t be used in pregnancy
Because there has been some links observed that it may be related to ASD in infants. Like Ibuprofen.
Most countries outside North America avoid NSAIDs because of liver damage. In 2025, I have no idea why NSAIDs are over-the-counter. But in countries that avoid acetominophen, they still have autism.
Acetaminophen is not an NSAID. They are OTC because they are overwhelmingly safe, in the directed dosages on the label.
