I’ve gotten a new phone and setting it up for the past few days - a Fairphone 5 with Android installed. So obviously, this means I can’t escape Googles clutches. Sure, whatever.

I have been VERY adamant about pressing “No” on all prompts, that try to get me to try something out or use some dumb service. I do not want any AI tool or similar to go through my files.

Yet, while perousing the depths of my system settings, I realized Google Photos was using a suspicous amount of storage. Somehow, it had “synchronized” ALL my locally saved pictures - this included pictures of my vacations, my drivers license, private pictures I would have rather not shared, and so on…

And while checking the Google Photos App for the damage done, obviously it had already automatically generated “previews” and “albums” for me, neatly organized.

IT HAD AUTOMATICALLY ANALYSED MY DRIVERS LICENSE AND SAVED IT INTO AN ALBUM CALLED “Identity-related”

How the fuck is this legal? I am so mad at myself right now. I’m usually so fuckin cautious about denying any sort of pop-up and setting all settings as strictly as possible.

So obviously I just had to spent 2 hours figuring out how to turn this “synchronization” off, and how to delete all photos in google photos - spoiler alert: There is no “Delete All” button. You have to manually select every single fucking image.

Sorry for the rant, I hope it’s not too off-topic. I’m just so mad right now.

  • Seefra 1@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    a Fairphone 5 with Android installed. So obviously, this means I can’t escape Googles clutches

    If you have a Fairphone then you can escape Google, Fairphones are one of the few phones that support third party ROMs. If they weren’t so expensive I would buy one myself.

    https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/FP5/

  • LordCrom@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Ya. I’m sorry for you.

    Problem is, even if you delete the Images, Google has already scraped them for info on you and used your Google account and phone number to tie it all together to further its data aggregation profile on you.

  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    What proof do you have that you in fact pressed no ?

    Also, didn’t you press I agree to anything that gives google indemnity against any of this when you first turned on the phone ?

    I think you would need a complete video recording from fresh firmware wipe to the action you describe happening, to establish it is or isn’t happening.

    Google will have make sure that proving them in the wrong takes a whole lot of effort

  • tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I’m sorry. There’s really no way to undo this. Grieving and and moving on is the only option, and I am not being sarcastic. If my privacy was violated like that by google, I would be very upset and would grieve. Even if you complain, they won’t remove it from AI training or whatever they intend to do, even if they lie and say they will. Librem 5’s have no google in them if you want to switch to something else. FuriLabs also make a Debian smartphone.

    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 days ago

      fairphones can also run custom roms. with calyxos the bootloader can even be relocked for security, it’s done by the installer. that way google services are optional

  • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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    3 days ago

    Email their data protection officer and the government. They may get fined hundreds of millions of dollars for this

    • RealM__@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 days ago

      There’s no article - this is something that happened to me personally, today. I needed an outlet and wanted some advice what to do about this, and I’m really happy about the responses I’ve gotten.

      • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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        3 days ago

        Yes, but you’re just screaming into an ephemeral void.

        You could actually make google pay for this if you wrote an article about this on substack and then linked to it here.

        Google has already paid over a billion dollars for GDPR violations. They do change their behavior as a result of such reporting and legal consequences.

        • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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          3 days ago

          Op should deff fight back but let’s temper the expectations here… Realistically nothing will happen.

          But yes it should be documented

  • infjarchninja@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    I feel for you.

    training ai on your photo’s without even asking. wankers

    I have just copied my elderly friends 2000 photos from google photos to my desktop, then deleted all of them from her phone. Had to do it with my browser, they only allow you to delete 30 photos at a time on the phone. tossers.

    Installed droid-ify, installed lawnchair, fossify gallery, fossify messages, fossify contacts. perfect.

    imported her photos back on to her phone:

    Intentionally painful but its done.

    bring on ADB, I have deleted everything with a G in it.

    first one: I wrote a simple little bash script for these:

    adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chrome

    okgoogle, xgoogle, Gmail, calender, Calendar Sync, videos, googlequicksearchbox, youtube, music, Google Contacts Sync, googleassistant, Google Digital Well Being App, Google Duo, Google Pay, google photos and Google Drive with adb so its doesnt happen again.

    This poor women is 84, WTF does she know about modern tech, google are tossers

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I would get rid of fairphone rom and install another rom:

    unlock your bootloader. easy guide from Fairphone.

    https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/10492476238865-How-to-unlock-and-re-lock-the-bootloader

    then install lineage or E/os custom rom

    https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/FP5/

    https://doc.e.foundation/devices/FP5

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    that’s why i straight up delete proprietary corporate apps now whenever possible, even if i don’t use them.

    they WILL do what they want unprompted, then make it difficult to undo.

  • Ardens@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Well, next time, make sure you have your settings set correctly - test with a few pictures at first…

    I use pCloud, and it works great for my needs. I have deleted everything I had ever uploaded to Google, besides the simplest backup from my mobile phone, so I can easily restore it, if my phone breaks and I need a new one.

      • Ardens@lemmy.ml
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        2 days ago

        Oh, do you think there’s any solution without a backdoor?

        If you are worried, you can use the extra encryption: “pCloud offers an optional encryption service, providing zero-knowledge client-side encryption. Files placed in the Crypto folder are encrypted before leaving the user’s device and remain inaccessible even to pCloud. This feature is offered as a paid add-on.”

        And if you are totally paranoid, then encrypt what you use, yourself.

        • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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          2 days ago

          Yes. Mega and Proton Drive and Tresorit are always client side encrypted. There is no backdoor like pCloud has.

  • Eternal192@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Have some dic pics that were uploaded that i sent to my gf when we started dating and i’m glad i didn’t delete them because now they have to look at my junk every time they decide to go snooping around where they shouldn’t.

    • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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      3 days ago

      Did they also suck up photos of your gf?

      If yes, you’re an asshole for leaking nudes of someone else to a third party.

      If no, you’re an asshole because you sent dick pics to someone and they weren’t into it.

      • Eternal192@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Fyi she asked for them and we got married last Friday after 5,5 years together and she sent me a few pics which i didn’t keep or download on my end but it was over WhatsApp so they are already in the system asshole.