• UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
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    A Hallmark of a Fascist government is the use of the justice system to shield those who support the government… And target those who do not

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      The majority of the people I work with are black. Most of them don’t think trump is going to target them. I’ve told them and they think I’m crazy. I’m just waiting until they catch up and hope it isn’t very much longer.

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        Most Magats are clueless. My boss is a big fan of Drumpf and her husband is first gen SE Asian here on a marriage visa. Like WTF do you think is going to happen to your husband or your mixed race kid? You think think that just because you voted for Drumpf, he will look the other way? LOL
        edit- not saying itdidnttrickledown’s coworkers are MAGAs just saying in general. Sorry for confusion.

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          Hate to break it to you but far too many black folks don’t think trump is that bad. They are not magats. They just don’t think he will come after them since they have guns.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    From the article

    New poll says 3 of 4 Americans believe democracy is at risk

    Democracy? US democracy? What democracy?

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      Likely the Irish for some reason. It wasn’t too long ago that they were considered a “minority” class in this country. In some circles (I’m looking at you, NE America), they were viewed as worse than the Black or Hispanic populations.

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        I’m as lily white the sun is my enemy as I can get. Last name is Irish.

        I’ve honestly been wondering if it was going to be Irish or Italians he was after for an “excuse” to crack white liberal areas.

        Anyone who thinks they’re safe and not a billionaire has their heads up their ass.

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      I have been wondering this actually. Like is he going to start reclaiming white from different people? Starting with the Italians maybe, probably not Eastern Europeans but you never know, are the Irish going back down? Are they redefining white again?

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    Man this dude and America in general is a huge fucking quack.

    Just like that time he attacked “insert other democratic here” there’s probably a group of people in the current demographic that still support him.

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      Now, while I said above if you’re of any demographic other than billionaire you should be nervous, going after the black crowd I’m kinda actually surprised it took this long.

      Look up the Southern Strategy. It’s been the Republican MO since LBJ, so racism specifically to the blacks has been baked in to the Republicans to win votes.

      It’s not that the current demographic would still support him, the current demographic is upset that Jim Crow laws went away.

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    So now that they’re approaching their end game with hispanics they’re starting to spin up the machine to go after the next minority. Now where have we seen this before? Been a while, something like 80 years.

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      They haven’t even started yet on finishing off the hate against immigrants. Hell in my part of Oklahoma plenty of Hispanics walking around not even seeming to be concerned. I don’t know how they don’t see the threat?

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        Not that following the law is a big priority for this administration, but doesn’t ICE have limited-to-no jurisdiction in OK? I thought they could only operate withing 300mi. of a land or sea border.

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            That’s not quite how jurisdiction works. County sheriffs aren’t shot at the border when they attend state court (in another county), but they don’t have jurisdiction so they can’t act as a law officer (e.g. arrest someone) in a foreign county.

            But, I agree that when the local police / national guard support / collaborate / conspire with ICE employees we are more likely to see a miscarriage of justice that goes unaddressed as the most likely outcome.

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              County sheriffs aren’t shot at the border when they attend state court (in another county), but they don’t have jurisdiction so they can’t act as a law officer (e.g. arrest someone) in a foreign county.

              That’s a pretty far reaching statement that is wrong in most places. Laws (typically) concerning police are at the state level, and they can act across their state.* Most states also extend jurisdiction to other states’ police in specific circumstances. They ALSO extend jurisdiction (which is really sort of a formality because are they actually going to go against the bigger government?) to federal police/agents, typically limited to felonies.

              *some exceptions are carved out, like traffic stops and where the arrested are to be transported and by who the arrested will be transported by.

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              I know that’s not how jurisdiction legally works on paper, but in practice, if ICE can come in and kidnap people off the street at gunpoint and the law enforcement with legal jurisdiction is unwilling to use lethal force to protect their citizens, ICE effectively has jurisdiction. I’d similarly say cartels have effective jurisdiction in parts of Mexico.

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                You sound like Humpty Dumpty:

                “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

                Using words that far outside their dictionary or conventional meanings is a not a path to clear communication.


                Separately, I checked, and I can no longer find the map of ICE jurisdiction that I was remembering, and as far as I can tell ICE’s current jurisdiction is anywhere federal law applies, including Oklahoma. So, I was definitely wrong there.

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                  You sound like Humpty Dumpty

                  I inferred from context that you meant that because they don’t have jurisdiction, they can’t arrest people. If that inference was wrong, so be it, but it was a reasonable one.

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        My boss who is Hispanic we are right near the border there are ice raids nearly daily

        Thinks it’s all a hoax cause he doesn’t personally know anyone that’s been taken or effected.