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01: A girl labeled ‘Artists’ is holding a drawing tablet and pen under her arm. She is wearing round glasses and a blue sweatshirt. She has messy dark-brown hair and a brown skin-tone. She says “We don’t really wanna MAKE A.I. art.”

02: A guy labeled ‘Art Enjoyers’ holds his hand out while speaking. She is wearing a purple and yellow hawaiian shirt with a floral pattern over a white t-shirt, and has red hair and a light skin-tone. He says “We don’t really wanna SEE A.I. art.”

03: Behind them both, there is a cute girl in a business suit with a pink tie. She is blushing a bit and has pink eyeshadow, and looks upset. Her messy shoulder-length hair is parted in the middle, and held by two hairclips: one that looks like a red arrow pointing down, and one that looks like a green arrow pointing up. She says “Um … I-Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?” She is labeled ‘Shareholders’.

04: She puffs up her cheeks and pouts, a tear is on the verge of falling from one of her eyes. ‘Artist Enjoyers’ Guy is now in front of her yelling “AH!! SHAREHOLDERS-CHAN!!” while ‘Artists’ Girl is in front of her yelling “WE’RE SORRY WE HURT YOU!!!”

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        Dear lord:

        actually you know what, you know what fun thing I kind of do take a little bit of pride in. I only play my own music like, for a Deadmau5, show like every, every track that I’ve ever played in like the, maybe the last like 100 sets of mine have been Productions of my own.

        — Deadmau5

        You don’t even pay attention to anything you say.

        Also:

        I think the mistake a lot of people tend to make is saying Joel is a DJ. He’s not, hes said it multiple times. People have pointed out in this comment section and every where he’s a producer. And while he definitely enjoys the technical aspects of things for a performance, you don’t have to look far to see that yeah, most of his sets are the same. Go look at footage from all the We Are Friends shows he did, and you will see the same set over and over. He even says in this livestream he really prepares deadmau5 shows well ahead of time, meanwhile his Testpilot shows are “free wheeled” which is him doing actual mixing. (Although lets be clear, if you watch him DJ as Testpilot and know anything about Ableton, you know hes just launching clips and applying effects to put on a musical show).

        Nothing inherently wrong with this. You’ll see the same people who complain about the Sync Button complaining about this. Bunch of old heads yelling about vinyl DJs, which I also love watching. People like Andy C are the bomb and watching him is just such a sight to behold. But at the end of the day, I don’t see the people complaining getting their names on the line up. Sorry not sorry.

        — T.E.I. from the video’s comment section. (emphasis is mine)

        All of those people involved in your reply. Real artist.

        You, inputting a prompt into a genAI, not an artist.

        If you showed me an image of an AI generated image of your making, it would not communicate anything about you, your history, context, values, meaning or anything remotely human to relate to. Going to an EDM show where a DJ just pushes the play button involves far more artistry than any amount of data centers burning tons of fossil fuels to make one shitty picture.

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          I’m not calling out deadmau5 or vinyl DJs. I said any DJ that has a synced light show is just pushing a button and dancing. The video I linked to explains why.

          If festival DJs that just push a button to play other people’s music get called artists then why not AI creators. It’s the same amount of skill and effort.

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            Disclaimer, I’m stopping any reply since I think you’re either arguing in bad faith, or will never understand my point.

            But if you can’t see the massive amount of effort, artistry and intentionality that comes from artists before they even get to the point of hitting play. Then you don’t deserve having gen AI. It’s too much for you. You will never ever be an artist with that attitude, and no one will ever want your art. You seem unable to relate on an emotional level with other human beings and their art. I suggest you further limit your chats to bots and LLMs, as you obviously lack basic human empathy. Please don’t reply anymore.

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              But if you can’t see the massive amount of effort, artistry and intentionality that comes from artists before they even get to the point of hitting play.

              Again, I’m not talking about musicians or producers.

              A DJ hitting play on a track they didn’t create seems analogous to someone sending a prompt to an AI.

              If deciding what music to play given the response to a previous track is art then choosing what prompt to add to a given AI response is also art.