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01: A girl labeled ‘Artists’ is holding a drawing tablet and pen under her arm. She is wearing round glasses and a blue sweatshirt. She has messy dark-brown hair and a brown skin-tone. She says “We don’t really wanna MAKE A.I. art.”

02: A guy labeled ‘Art Enjoyers’ holds his hand out while speaking. She is wearing a purple and yellow hawaiian shirt with a floral pattern over a white t-shirt, and has red hair and a light skin-tone. He says “We don’t really wanna SEE A.I. art.”

03: Behind them both, there is a cute girl in a business suit with a pink tie. She is blushing a bit and has pink eyeshadow, and looks upset. Her messy shoulder-length hair is parted in the middle, and held by two hairclips: one that looks like a red arrow pointing down, and one that looks like a green arrow pointing up. She says “Um … I-Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?” She is labeled ‘Shareholders’.

04: She puffs up her cheeks and pouts, a tear is on the verge of falling from one of her eyes. ‘Artist Enjoyers’ Guy is now in front of her yelling “AH!! SHAREHOLDERS-CHAN!!” while ‘Artists’ Girl is in front of her yelling “WE’RE SORRY WE HURT YOU!!!”

    • biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works
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      But the goal is to run a marathon, which I’m not sure but I have a bunch that using a motorcycle doesn’t count as running, although I should triple check because who knows, the earth devs could’ve pushed an update where riding a motorbike increases your athleticism stats.

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        When you paint the goal isn’t to do 50 brush stokes per minute. The goal is to produce a painting. Likewise, in your analogy the goal is to get to Athens from Marathon.

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          Turns out, I’ve been producing paintings for around 3 years and digital art for around 2 years, and I’ve gotta say, it’s rarely about getting the product out there, it’s the journey, the iterations you make, the the inspiration you have, the feedback you get, the materials/programs you use, etc.

          If you’ve ever created artistic pieces for more than just the small amount of paintings you’d produce in primary and high school, you’d realise that actually finishing the piece is only an implied goal, not an “i need to get this done by tomorrow or else my boss will fire me” situation.

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            Oh yes. From the artists perspective a piece is rarely finished. There always seems more to add or change. I very much respect artists who can create minimal pieces that still seem finished.

            Using AI within these iterations does not seem to be cheating to me, but many people in this thread seem to disagree.

            But from a viewer perspective they can only imagine the work that has gone into a piece. The end result is usually all they have.

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          Art is not about the product. And your lack of artistic literacy displays this attitude. Art is about meaning and process. Here, try to use your empathy to learn something for a change.

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            True, some art is more about the process than the result, but the painting of the mona lisa is certainly the product, not the process.

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              See, that’s how I know you know nothing about art. You mention mona lisa because it is widely popular. But don’t know that RX of the painting show that davinci painted other two portraits underneath before the final result. Or the fact that it became famous because it was stolen for a while and when restored, the Louvre placed a security glass which, along with the burglary story, piked the interest of audiences for a painting that was thus far mostly ignored.

              Art is more than the product, it’s its history, context and the value humans place of them. Without realizing this, art will never be more than a product to you. In which case I would suggest to stick your art criticism to marketing and ads.

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                Art history is very interesting, but let’s not kid ourselves. The tourists are packed into a small part of the Louvre only for the finished product.

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      You are not achieving your goal though. You are not making art with AI, something else is doing it.