• skisnow@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    Why not go direct that pompous judgmental energy at people who actually voted for Trump, instead of spending your time berating people for not wanting to keep enabling the massively undemocratic 2-party system that led to fascism in the first place?

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      5 days ago

      Because the single-issue voters who refused to vote for Harris contributed to changing the 2-party system they had, to a 1-party system now.

      Do 3rd party activism between election cycles, not when MegaHitler is close to being elected.

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        5 days ago

        I’m really not interested in the moral opinions of people who describe “opposing your government doing a Holocaust” as “single-issue voters”

        Do 3rd party activism between election cycles,

        Seems like you think the time between election cycles is when you should be tearing into the left.

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          4 days ago

          Now there’s two holocausts. Everyone with a brain knew it was only going to get worse under Trump compared to Biden or Harris, and now they’re talking about alligators getting 65 million meals. Tell me how is two genocides better than once? How come not a single “true leftist” such as yourself acknowledges Trump being a genocidal maniac, only Harris?

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              5 days ago

              Hard dems sure, but the rest of us that want a true third party that doesn’t have these stupid caveats are more than willing to see a 3rd option come to light and support it.

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                5 days ago

                How are you not a hard Dem? You literally engage in genocide apologia to defend them. You also viciously tear into anyone who opposes the Democrats, so it’s pretty rich to say you support a third party

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                  5 days ago

                  I fucking hate that I have to vote for democrats. And yeah I’ve been laying into people today because they are taking a brainless approach to the situation.

                  I had no good options on my ballot!

                  Not voting is leaving things to chance, so what can I do but try to vote for the lesser evil when I have no good option? Vote for the lesser evil and try to get a good option on the next ballot when in between elections.

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                    4 days ago

                    I fucking hate that I have to vote for democrats

                    Not so much that you won’t engage in all manner of apologia and genocide denialism to support them

                    And yeah I’ve been laying into people today because they are taking a brainless approach to the situation.

                    Really sounds like you don’t actually want people supporting third parties.

                    so what can I do but try to vote for the lesser evil when I have no good option?

                    Actually being honest about the evil of the Democrats even if you ultimately vote for them. The fact that basically every “lesser evil” voter I’ve encountered has ended up outright defending the Democrats had convinced me that people are not actually psychologically capable of voting lesser evil without trying to white wash the evil they support.

                    And now that the election is over you should be condemning Biden and Harris as the monsters they are

                    Also if you’re not in a swing state you should be voting third party.

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        5 days ago

        Kamala will never beat Trump no matter how much you want to cry about it. You need an actual opposition party, neoliberalism is dead.

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          5 days ago

          An actual opposition party to the left of the neoliberals siphons votes from the neoliberals to make it easier for the real fascists.

          Changing to a better election system has to happen on a state level first because states are the ones who can choose if they have an FPTP system (yay 2 party system) or a proportional system. Even IF you managed to elect a bona-fide socialist as president, it’s not gonna affect shit because that’s not even the president’s jurisdiction. Or congress. It’s state level.