Newly uncovered metadata reveals that nearly three minutes of footage were cut from what the US Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation described as “full raw” surveillance video from the only functioning camera near Jeffrey Epstein’s prison cell the night before he was found dead. The video was released last week as part of the Trump administration’s commitment to fully investigate Epstein’s 2019 death but instead has raised new questions about how the footage was edited and assembled.

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  • yarr@feddit.nl
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    10 days ago

    Don’t worry about those 3 minutes, for real. The radical left would have you believe something bad happened during this, but the video was just so boring we wanted to save you the tedium of viewing it. This video is absolute proof nothing unsavory happened, so quit asking questions and don’t forget to vote Republican in the primaries!

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    11 days ago

    It’s all intentional, these are gangster tactics. You are supposed to cover up the assassination but not that well, so the message gets out, we can kill you if you talk and make it look like an accident/suicide whatever. That’s why the sloppy editing etc.

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    11 days ago

    It is darkly funny, on multiple levels, that thus far the best impediment to the Mechanazis is their own dumb fucking incompetence.

    They certainly are not being thwarted by an “opposition” that is cowardly and craven, if not outright complicit.

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      11 days ago

      It’s especially funny that what’s finally undoing them is a conspiracy theory. The whole MAGA movement is founded on conspiracies. Just before starting his run for President, Trump was the birther in chief, pushing the conspiracy that Obama was Kenyan. Live by the sword, die by the sword, I guess.

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      11 days ago

      The absolute cowardice of the Democrat party is supremely laughably sad. The US is no longer controlled by a government. Just rich people. Maybe it always has been.

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 days ago

    Simple explanation. When all the guards simultaneously fell asleep, one of them accidentally cut the power to the security system.

    You can’t expect the Justice Department to provide footage that was never recorded in a freak accident that is totally not suspicious at all. It’s not like Epstein had mountains of dirt on the wealthiest and most evil people on the planet doing unspeakably horrible things to innocent children.

    We should all just accept this ridiculous story as true and let the rich evil people get back to doing… whatever it was they were doing. I’ve already forgotten

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      11 days ago

      Also don’t mind that cellmate that got transferred out shortly before Epstein “killed himself”. Such an unfortunate series of coincidences

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        11 days ago

        I would guess that most of the time when a prisoner kills themselves it’s when they don’t have a cellmate. A cellmate is probably likely to stop someone or to call the guards, rather than just watch someone die.

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    12 days ago

    That makes a bit more sense. one minute was not quite enough to get in, string up a noose, put him in the noose, and get out; never mind the presumed struggle and/or drugging or whatever.

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      11 days ago

      I haven’t really looked much into the layout or video (I tend to not like staring at corpses OR rapists), but assuming it is of the cell itself or the door right outside?

      A minute is more than enough time for a couple of blokes to get in, grab someone, put them in a blood choke, loop the noose, throw it, and tie a super quick knot. Hollywood likes people to think you can struggle against getting choked. An air choke where your oxygen supply is cut off? Sure, those can take a minute or two to kill someone. A blood choke where you put pressure on the artery? They are unconscious in less than 10 seconds (sometimes almost instantaneously) and they aren’t going to wake up the moment you release. Similarly, ask any climber to tie a quick figure eight (or bowline if they are old or european) and they can do that blindfolded, in the rain, in like 10 seconds.

      So assuming even two killers? Yeah, a minute is more than enough time.

      That isn’t to say that multiple minutes is not more likely. But the article has many caveats for why that isn’t necessarily the case (overlap, basically) and there is already a massive push by fascists to somehow spin all of this as being Obama’s fault. So be wary of easy gotchas that they can introduce and disprove.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        They are unconscious in less than 10 seconds (sometimes almost instantaneously) and they aren’t going to wake up the moment you release. Similarly, ask any climber to tie a quick figure eight (or bowline if they are old or european) and they can do that blindfolded, in the rain, in like 10 seconds.

        So assuming even two killers? Yeah, a minute is more than enough time.

        You, eh, ever try to lift 150-200 pounds of dead weight? while trying to make it look like that dead weight did it himself?

        it’s not just the fight. It’s not just the struggle. just for the record the camera was in the hallway outside and not in the room. a minute is barely enough time to get in, kill him, and get out.

        To also then string him up, and remove whatever you need to, to make it look like suicide? three minutes is pushing it, even with 2 guys- and remember, the more guys you add the more potential you have for some one talking.

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          You, eh, ever try to lift 150-200 pounds of dead weight? while trying to make it look like that dead weight did it himself?

          One murderer puts their arms under his armpits. The other loops the noose and then ties it off.

          Could Abby Sciuto and Ducky figure out it was faked? Sure. But they aren’t getting called in to investigate a hit that was organized by the people who would be investigating the murder.

          To also then string him up, and remove whatever you need to, to make it look like suicide?

          Open the door. One guy rushes him and does a blood choke. He was old and nowhere near at his best. The other quickly throws the noose up and ties it off. They don’t have to remove anything but themselves.

          Again. I think more time is more likely. But be very cautious of “They needed way more than one minute!” because, again, even the wired article suggests it may just be overlapping clips and it would be super easy to say “Actually that analyst is wrong and it is really only one minute of lost footage so all of you conspiracy theorists are wrong and owe donald j trump an apology”


          As an example, think OJ Simpson. So much of the case became fixated on that glove. So once it was “proved” that he couldn’t wear it (because his hands were swollen and had thick latex gloves on them…) the entire case fell apart.

          This will basically never reach trial for obvious reasons. But the principle still holds. Don’t overly fixate on specific details that can be trivially refuted unless they are key details. And it is very possible, if not overly plausible, that they could have suicide’d epstein in under a minute.

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        10 days ago

        For a guy that doesn’t like staring at corpses, you seem versed in how to make them?

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      11 days ago

      I mean, it depends on how many people you have available. Five or six strong dudes could easily overpower him in like 10 seconds. Have another dude ready with a pre-tied noose, so all he has to do is throw it over a bar and pull it tight. Once Epstein is being bearhugged by like three dudes, getting him into the noose would be trivial.

      A minute would be tight, but if you keep cameras in mind and bum-rush him with a practiced team, it could be doable.

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          11 days ago

          Nah, super easy.

          Each of you gets a million dollars, anyone talks about what happened tonight… well, let’s just say that you now know first hand I’m well connected, and I have the means to dispose of anyone, anywhere, anytime.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      They’ve always said there was a camera covering the entrance to Epstein’s wing.

      What they didn’t say was that only a sliver of the doorway is visible and there are multiple examples of staff entering and leaving the wing without being detected by the camera.

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        11 days ago

        Yeah, I think if this is truly the only video they have considered vaguely close to “having a video”, it was a fair description to say “we don’t have video”.