Just so we’re clear, you’re explaining that FDR got those things through by taking actions that he was able to do, and that if he hadn’t, we would not have gotten.

IE he is directly responsible for the permanent creation of multiple agencies which would not have been created without his foresight, plan, or public push.

What was that about him carrying out plans by Congress when he constantly had to wield public authority to make Congress do the things they were supposed to do? You just not gonna mention the fact that he had to threaten the supreme court multiple times to stack the court or remove justices in order to get them to play along with his reformations?

Besides, the democrats haven’t done anything like that in around 79 years which goes to my point that they aren’t doing anything.

Yeah, I wonder why it’s called the FDR reformations and not the reformations of the 73rd Congress. 🙄

Nah democrats lost an election that was handed to them on a sliver plater.

The most important job of a political party is to energize the electorate, something the democrats have failed to do for the better part of 20 years.

If every 3rd party voted D in this race it wouldn’t not have saved the this election. Democrats shot themselves in the foot by allowing Genocide Joe to attempt to run again (it’s also highly likely he knew about his prostate cancer at this point) and then using the less than useless strat of appealing to moderates and Republicans.

Their incompetence was highlighted by their less-than-useless strategy of trying to appeal to moderates and conservatives by appearing on stage with people that the Democrats electorate hate, like George Bush and Liz Cheney, which resulted in less moderate and conservative votes than from 2020.

I stopped using these guys when it became clear they were doing everything they could to prevent the government from developing their own app.

Better headline. 21 children killed as Israel’s genocide ramps up using illegal collective starvation.

Biden govt health option https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/health-202-biden-public-option-health-insurance/amp/

Right the president’s not supposed to be a dictator so it would have been helpful to get some of those rulings on the books before Trump became president. How do you get there by utilizing the power that the Supreme Court gave to Biden.

Yes the US does have one of the lowest inflation rates from 2020 completely ignores purchasing power of the average person in the United States compared to those in the rest of the world.

The ACA is a Band-Aid and while lowering premiums is a good thing he didn’t exactly lower them past the point of their increase in inflation. Trump did do the tax credit thing Biden just continued it and Trump is continuing it again.

Yep voted in a blue wave federally and locally and this was the reward :)

Good show for electoralism

Nah I’d much rather focus on the Legacy left by the Democrats and particularly Joe Biden and ensuring that Trump won an election that was almost handed to the Democrats on a silver platter.

Lowering the ACA premiums and increasing some tax credits that could be easily Dodge by corporations was quite the accomplishment of one of the most Progressive administrations in American history.

I don’t know why people are so upset about Universal Health Care or the government option that the Democrats were being on about during the 2020 election.

It’s not like a Democrats allowed all of the protections protecting children from Child property to expire in 2022.

Certainly not like the tax credit was a feature of the Trump Administration that Biden then enhanced.

Doesn’t address the very real problems with these services that every day Americans rely on

All of these things were increasing under Biden. In fact child poverty went up during his administration. 😃

There was already an increase in the amount of measle cases reported in areas that have embraced non-vaccination attitudes.

Us climate Aid was already dead and not making any real changes to the global climate crisis.

I will grant that Trump’s complete gutting of the executive Administration a significantly worse than what we would have if a Democrat was President but it’s foolish to think that that any of these things would be much better if a Democrat was in the Oval Office

So here’s an article from Newsweek and noting the change in her campaign strategy

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-campaign-leaning-losing-strategy-opinion-1974332

200,000 people have died in Gaza most of that occurring in 2023 to 2024. Who was president during that time?

Whatever other stats you have are irrelevant since the genocide started with Joe.

What’s really fucking awful is that Trump is actually done more to help Palestinians than Biden dreamed of doing and that’s just because Trump is fucking around with Netanyahu not because Trump gives a fuck about Palestine.

Here you want to talk about material changes that changed in 2025?

Well Biden restricted funding to UNRWA directly contributing to the death of probably hundreds of Palestinians that desperately needed that Aid.

Biden threatened the houthis to get them to stop bombing Israel ships where Trump did not give a fuck and made a deal with the houthis as long as they didn’t attack American ships he didn’t care what they did. Israel is currently suffering a major port shutdown due to the houthi blockade which was only possible because of trump.

Trump did secure ceasefire initially when he’s got into office Regardless of what he did and how he did it he did get a ceasefire which is something that Biden failed over and over and over and over to do.

And as ridiculous as Trump is in the Middle East is clear that he doesn’t want a lot of war in the Middle East because he wants to look like a strong tough president that maintains World stability. That’s a whole lot fucking better than Biden’s full-throated support for the Palestinian genocide along with taking every single step to ensure that Israel could not be interrupted committing their genocide.

Genetic fallacy detected.

Inability to engage with constructive points noted.

Anything else that you would like to declare about your lack of literacy or your inability to criticize?

Oh yes let’s just ignore the reality the situation and make up bullshit to support your argument. I love it when we get to this part of the politics thread.

So you didn’t notice that as soon as Kamala got the nomination from the DNC that her strategy entirely changed because she picked up Biden’s advisors and they went with a Do no harm strategy that specifically capitulated to moderates something that was noted by the majority report and most liberal mainstream Media news sources during 2024? I’d love to link you a few articles if you’re interested.

Things are five times worse for the Palestinians now? I’m sorry who was president during the majority of the time the Palestinian genocide was going on? Yeah Trump and the maralogo crowd in Florida definitely did a whole lot to push that genocide forward and definitely did a lot to tie Biden’s hands and there’s definitely not reporting that Biden was literally a godsend to Israel due to not putting any pressure on them. Come on this is well known that Biden did literally nothing about the Palestinian genocide. Stop pretending this is a win, it’s unequivocally not. Biden’s Legacy will forever be stained by the title of “Genocide Joe” oh and the fact that he delivered us directly to Trump.

Yes millions of people voted for Biden but it’s very very clear that the strategy of going out to vote for “harm reduction” was not enough to deal with apathetic voters. Getting people to vote doesn’t mean getting them engaged in electoralism it means getting them engaged with local organizations where they can actually see change affect things around them. then those people might have an interest in voting which deals with the apathetic voting issue. But you don’t get there by focusing solely on getting people to vote.

I’m glad we agree on the DNC and David hog. It is entirely bullshit what the DNC did to him and it’s entirely bullshit that the DNC endorses candidates.

Look I’m not saying that people shouldn’t vote, I am saying that focusing on electoralism as one of the most important or the most important thing is the wrong strategy and will do nothing to help save us from Trump. This is literally been the strategy of the Democrats for the last 20 years and it’s not worked.

Nah they’ll just tighten the circle to ensure less information leaks to the public.

I think seeing the elections as voting for the “Lesser evil” is a mistake that too many Americans are making.

I completely understand why people are taking so much umbrage with this opinion of mine especially given that it attacks a fairly core identity of liberal politics.

What I’m pointing out is that we knew this was coming. We begged the Democrats to do something, anything stop this or to head It Off and we’re meant with that’s too hard to politically do.

Especially frustrating watching how fast the Trump Administration has made changes despite Court pushback.

I point this out because people seem to think that if we vote the Democrats back in that’ll fix everything or anything when that’s just going to delay the inevitable fall do fascism because they refuse to address any of the root problems and naturally people get apathetic. It’s incredibly clear how little our voice matters or how our vote counts right now.

The Democrats are just different side of the same coin and they promise the world and then have the gall to deliver completely inadequate compromises as a solution and then refuse to address it such as in the case of the ACA.

Joe Biden had four years to fix some of these problems like the issues with the fcc and the major problem of having a large corporate owner who owns a huge portion of both FedEx and UPS in control of the post office and drastically cutting their budgets to the Bone which might have indirectly helped Donald Trump win the election in 2024. There is a ton the executive branch could have done to make the FCC functional and actually ensuring some of our rights so that it would take time for the Trump Administration to undo those protections. I’m not stupid I know they wouldn’t survive for long but it would slow him down which gives time for other groups to Rally against Trump and the Republican Party but was unable to take any sort of advantage.

It is so incredibly clear from the way the Republicans are acting and organizing that there was so much more the Democrats could have done that’s they are refusing to do out of some inane sense of Civility politics or respectability which should have gone out of the window 20 plus years ago.

The problem is the Democrats don’t see the Republican party as a problem. They see this Republican party as a problem but the old moderate one with Bush was fine. Most of the constituents that represent the Democrats find the entire institution of the Republicans to be abhorrent and do not want the Democrats to work with them despite the overwhelming majority of democrat Representatives that push that narrative.

The Democrats want a strong Republican Party

They do not understand that this is part of the problem with their strategy.

I’m sorry if I sound a little heated. I’m incredibly passionate about this topic and have done a lot of research to come to the opinions that I possess.

Seriously let’s just blame the electorate?

I didn’t hear the Republicans complaining about Their electorate when they embraced Trump despite the objection of most mainstream Republicans.

Power’s going to power?

Well people push power back and will just refuse to capitulate to the whole system which is what caused the Democrats to lose the election in 2020.

The job of the Democrat Party is to energize the electorate to vote, something the Republican Party clearly understands: maybe the Democrat Party should take lessons

Love the mispellibg of “sweety”

Love the implication the Democrats are powerless.

Love the implications that Joe Biden couldn’t have done anything more than what he did.

Still miss the challenge though which was name on permanent policy the Democrats have done that Joe Biden has done. I can name a few from Obama that did have a permanent impact on people but it’s kind of funny I’m drawing at blank Joe Biden.

It’s almost like his administration was entirely political theater designed to seemingly capitulate to populist ideas will not really giving them anything.

Yeah the Democrats are doing so much to stop the Republicans now 🙄

Definitely seems like they are the warrior of the people.

They’re definitely not answering any corporate overlords or imposing political strategies that are known to fail and haven’t worked in nearly 20 years in order not to offend their donors.

No we can ignore the dramatic shifts the Kamala campaign talk in order to appeal to moderates that resulted in her getting less conservative votes than biden did in 2020.

Let’s ignore the geriatric old man that also promised to run again despite the fact that nobody wanted him to and internal DNC polling predicting it would be an abject failure.

Finally let’s not forget the genocide they funded with open arms and full throated support proving to be the reason that one in three absentee voters who voted in 2020 did not vote in 2024.

Yep let’s just ignore all of the bumblefuckery of the Democrats and how they literally fumbled an election that was on a silver platter.

I mean it’s clear they haven’t learned their lesson my removing David hog and not really supporting Zohran mamdani. The official org president has come out and supported him but notable Democratic leaders still haven’t endorsed him.

No it was definitely the Republicans who only capitalized on the failure of the Democrats to do literally anything useful.

Name a single permanent policy that he put in place that benefits the majority of Americans today.

Yet another thing that Biden somehow managed to fail us on.

Did he do anything to protect our rights or our freedoms or was it all just incremental budget bills to fund projects that are going to keep their billionaire donors happy?