US local phone numbers, English:
Master card
800-627-8372,1,1
Visa
800-847-2911,1,4
Script:
I’m calling to urge you to immediately end your new policy that unfairly targets the adult content industry, making sex workers even more vulnerable. I’m also asking you to sit down with stakeholders- specifically sex workers and adult content creators- to develop solutions that ensure equitable access to financial services, create stability, and reduce harm for sex workers.
Because of a risk of suing. There is no such risk when removing content, but adding content can lead to that risk…
who would sue who? who is being harmed? the crazies sure can’t: what harm have they suffered by mastercard facilitating transactions between 2 unrelated parties?
I’m not saying it from the perspective of collective shout, not even that they would be the ones suing.
I’m saying if a payment processor allows in illegal content, they are in the wrong legally.
While if they rescind some legal content’s availability because of potential risks, they’re not wrong legally speaking.
That’s what my comment was about, in replying to the one above it.
Collective Shout themselves did not need to sue anyone, the threat of outside legal action was enough to make the payment processors cold sweat. That’s why they did it. And that’s why petitions and counter-campaigns don’t have the weight of what collective shout convinced them of…
Because there’s always the hypothetical scenario, what if one of the removed games was actually illegal in some form, and by reinstating it in a new decision the payment processor opens itself up to being sued?
That what if is on execs’ minds.
They couldn’t even win
My dude I am not your enemy I am just stating a fact. Downvoting me is brain dead.
I hadn’t yet (I might now tho) because I understand what you’re trying to say even if that argument is actually nonsense. It’s not even like evangelicals could use a different payment system to replace these companies after they lose from running out of money or getting ignored completely because they can’t actually sue these companies. Especially not for this.
This is clearly another attempt to control steam because other methods failed. 1000 anything couldn’t get visa/PayPal etc. to do something unless they were already in on it. The only reason flooding them 10-100x in calls and emails won’t work is this apart of their grand master plan to get murdered by horny neckbeards. Seems right up Thiel’s alley
I’m not saying it from the perspective of collective shout, not even that they would be the ones suing.
I’m saying if a payment processor allows in illegal content, they are in the wrong legally.
While if they rescind some legal content’s availability because of potential risks, they’re not wrong legally speaking.
That’s what my comment was about, in replying to the one above it.
Collective Shout themselves did not need to sue anyone, the threat of outside legal action was enough to make the payment processors cold sweat. That’s why they did it. And that’s why petitions and counter-campaigns don’t have the weight of what collective shout convinced them of…
Because there’s always the hypothetical scenario, what if one of the removed games was actually illegal in some form, and by reinstating it in a new decision the payment processor opens itself up to being sued?
That what if is on execs’ minds.
No it’s not, if it was illegal content CS could habe taken steam down directly. hell anyone could. And even if it had been illegal there’s not enough money to take down these companies. Also if buying something illegal using PayPal or whatever was a legitimate reason to be scared this would have happened decades ago.
No this is a test for Thiel’s plan to get rid of porn in general and by even entertaining that there’s some legitimate concern or even a problem that payment processors have to deal with is insane.