• manxu@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    Alright, I hear you, but I think the point is that a cyclist running a red light mostly endangers themselves, while a car running a red light endangers others. Here in Colorado, we changed the laws such that a red light is a stop sign for cars, and a stop sign a yield, in recognition of the differences in risk.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      In my experience cyclists are more likely to run red-lights in pedestrian crossings than in junctions and intersections, so they’re not endangering themselves, they’re endangering pedestrians.

    • Auli@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      Cool except for the person who hits the cyclist and surfers emotional damage.

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      3 days ago

      That’s assuming that an oncoming car wouldn’t swerve at all if a cyclist entered their path. Dangerous or unpredictable behavior by anyone on a road puts everyone in the area at risk.

      • manxu@piefed.social
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        2 days ago

        Yes, and nobody disputes that some bicyclists put everyone at risk. The point of the article, though, is that drivers are handed a fine, while bicyclists are handed criminal charges. Pointing out that bicyclists are given harsher treatment for a less dangerous offense is, I think, fair in this case.

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        2 days ago

        I would argue a stop sign is car infrastructure.

        Did we have stop signs before cars started to fill up our city streets?

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          2 days ago

          I would agree but the parent is talking about how the rules for driving apply to bicycles differently from cars.