• Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    I don’t think Trump offered him anything.

    Epstein was looking down the barrel of life imprisonment (or close enough) and killed himself, which is a common enough outcome.

    I do think it’s likely that the administration gave him ample opportunity, though. He tried to kill himself before, they took him off suicide watch soon thereafter, and he was soon found hanged in his cell.

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      5 days ago

      He absolutely offered him something! That plee deal and the whole arrest to death was shady as fuck. When dealing with Trump the dumbest most cartoon villain answer is usually the answer.

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        5 days ago

        The plea deal from 2008? Yes it was shady, but I don’t see how that’s relevant to my point.

        The arrest and death being shady as fuck also aligns with my hypothesis that they gave him the means and opportunity to kill himself as a cover-up, so I’m not sure how that’s an argument against it.

        Why would they offer him something? Why would he believe that they would follow through? Didn’t they know he was suicidal anyway? Why not just push him towards that? Why would he be willing to kill himself for a Maxwell pardon?

        I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that it isn’t the simplest explanation.

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          Why would they offer him something?

          Because his main campaign strategy was centered around bring epstein (and others) to justice. Remember Trump honestly wants to be a Mob Boss. (listen to him glow when talking about old mob movies and criminals.)

          Why would he think they would follow through?

          They made him an offer he “couldn’t refuse.” (Trump thinks he’s a mob boss!)

          Didn’t they know he was suicidal anyway?

          Just like a yakuza drone becomes suicidal when he enters a room prepared just for him and there’s just a short sword on the table?

          Why not just push him towards that?

          They did.

          Why ups he be willing to kill himself for a Maxwell pardon.

          One again. Did he have a choice?

          All my opinion. But these idiots are not that deep. Trying to get into their heads is a waste of time. It’s usually way simpler than you think.

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      5 days ago

      Its possible but IMO much more likely he was killed.

      Every minute he was alive was a minute he could start singing.

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        5 days ago

        There’s little moral difference between killing someone outright and giving them the means when you know they’ll do it themselves; I just think it’s more likely that they did the latter for cover-up purposes.