• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    About the fourth or fifth report like this I’ve seen. Always picking a grade level that suffered lack of school during covid. 4th graders are a recent pick. Seniors are a good pick too, losing out on 7th/8th grade.

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    The lesser thinking and reasoning capabilites of the masses the more thriving times for the most powerful ones, you are basically eliminating crucial defensive capacities of the population allowing a critical advantage in perpetuate the power monopoly of the few…

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      No, they’re gonna weaponize this by saying “look at what DEI is doing to our schools!” or somehow funnel money to private schools and away from public schools.

  • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    That’s the point.

    Once a stock price is involved, you’re just another line item on a spreadsheet; something to be minimized and managed as much as possible for the sake of maximizing profit.

    You’re not a human being. You’re part of a collective metric called labour. And as such, they only need you to be as smart as you need to be to use the tools required for your job. Any smarter than that and they run the risk of losing control.

    Ultimately, it’s why there has always been a conservartive demonization of the Liberal Arts (Ars Liberalis) and a large push to be the “party of the average joe” who likely goes to a trade school.

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    Let’s be super real though. The multiple choice questions on those exams are fucking horse shit. Nobody gives a fuck about the content of those passages. I skimmed them and circled all c so I could leave.

    And as a physics professor, the math is fucking horse shit. Cave dwellers like me will use things that are proximally related as viewed through a telescope. Everyone else learns it for these exams and nothing else

    The only thing these exams test is the color of people who can afford after school test prep to learn how to best and most brainlessly eliminate the wrong answers and guess. (It’s the white people)

    I say dropping scores are progress. Let’s bottom out and hopefully we take the shit basket we call education more seriously.

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      Everyone else learns it for these exams and nothing else

      A bit part of learning is to learn how to learn. Without learning just for exams it’s hard to learn useful things later in life.

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        I’m not sure if I am misinterpreting or misunderstanding your answer, but this is my response to everything.

        There’s a difference between learning for tests and learning critical literacy and inquiry-based learning. Unfortunately, schools are forced to teach to the test and many students don’t connect with it and/or they are multilingual or English language learners and are struggling because the tests go over things that are exclusive to American culture or students, in general, aren’t provided support.

        Yes, even math suffers. Word problems are a problem. Schools have to pull in social studies to other disciplines and science is often neglected for reading and math. There are a ton of behavior issues as well that teachers deal with that take away from time.

        There’s just SO much wrong with education. I’m in the middle of a master’s program for elementary education and I’m substitute teaching as well (career switch late in life). I’m learning a lot about this stuff when I didn’t really pay attention before.

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          Yes, all those issues are real. I was only talking about “learning for the sake of learning” criticism. I was force to memorize stupid poems in school that I soon forgot but even this lets you practice memory. Big part of education is just showing you how to decide which information is relevant, where to find it and how to memorize stuff. It doesn’t work when everything else is broken but just forcing people to memorize things is not an issue in itself.

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    Yeah, but if it makes us feel any better, future us weoll haven killed for scores like this.

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    The school system is becoming dumber and dumber. They are blaming kids for the failures of the system. They are making decisions to teach what’s on the tests instead of the material. School is suppose to give kids options. Not teach everyone the same slop

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    Schools were always indoctrination mills.

    None of this matters. Even when reading and math scores were higher, most students still ended up in service jobs that didn’t require higher level reading or math.

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    I am seeing reading ability go up in middle school. There was a huge drop as the wave of elementry year covid wave of students go through. My current students were in 1st grade when they were sent home and are far better at reading and writing than the group I had 2 years ago who missed 3rd grade. The group that missed 5th grade had more behavior issues. I believe data will get better as the disturbance gets farther away.

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    We’ve been on a nation wide teacher shortage for 40 years now. The poorest school districts are lucky to have 50% trained teachers. The rest are people off the street that could pass a background check. (no degree needed) Not saying those individuals aren’t needed but being an effective teacher takes years of experience and schooling to teach effectively. We have more OF models in America than teachers.

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      being an effective teacher takes years of experience and schooling to teach effectively

      I disagree. Some people make great teachers, and most people don’t.

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        Oh I get that 100% the good thing about a traditional path is that it weeds out a lot of individuals that really shouldn’t be teachers. And there are those individuals right off the street that take to teaching naturally. But those individuals probably had a career closely aligned with what they are teaching. (stay at home mom’s make amazing Pre-k and K teachers once their children leave the nest.) Those are few and far between. Track your local district’s lawsuits and regulations violations. A large share will be caused by emergency hires. Most are good people just put in a sink or swim situation when the support system is an already crumbling school system.