• Zak@lemmy.world
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      Several people in the comments suggest Telegram, which doesn’t even encrypt group chats. Signal is likely the best option if the group is under 1000 members.

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        Oh, I thought Telegram does encrypt chats, just that you have to enable it rather than it being on be default. Is encryption only available for one-on-one messages?

        Oh well, I can’t get my friends and family to use Signal anyway…

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          I thought Telegram does encrypt chats, just that you have to enable it rather than it being on be default. Is encryption only available for one-on-one messages?

          It’s only available for 1-to-1, yes. But why would you rely on a service that hides the option to E2E encryption so well? Next step is to silently remove it.

          Signal is private by default.

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              They’re both shitty imperialist countries responsible for wars and genocide.

              I’ll take neither, thanks.

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            Durov only founded Telegram after he left Russia over Maidan. He was, however, recently arrested by the French, so…

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              He left it performatively. Since then, he’s secretly visited Russia, one time just around its unblocking in Russia, while pretending to be a fugitive.

              Edit: Here’s an article on that.

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            Ah, just looked the guy up on Wiki. Yeah, Russian Elon musk seems about right.

            We don’t use Telegram and I never plan to.

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          It does not have the option to encrypt group chats last I checked, and even the one-to-one encryption is not particularly well-liked among security experts.

          This isn’t about casual chats with friends and family, but political activism against the actions of a country. People doing that should be willing to put at least a trivial amount of effort into security.

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            Oh yeah, I know they’re dogshit and that the activists should’ve been using Signal, I just didn’t realize that Telegram doesn’t encrypt group chats.