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  • Valmond@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Very interesting.

    I’m making a decentralised open source sharing protocol (have your free cloud drive, website, …) and I very often gets the question about what if my node shares some illegal stuff (because when someone shares yours, you share theirs)?

    It’s all encrypted so a node cannot know what it shares, and if someone asks you to take down abc.xyz then we’ll do it and it should be the end of the story.

    Seems that’s what it would be in the UK at least (and the rest of the EU usually doesn’t have harsher laws for what I know), what are your thought?

    • General_Effort@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Maybe look up the story behind Tornado Cash.

      EU law has liability exemption for hosters if they remove illegal content once notified (DSA Article 6). I think we still have to wait for more case law to know how that works with encryption. National law may still cause problems.

      • Valmond@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Thank you!

        Seems like the EU Safe Harbor Provisions, you basically must not incentivice illegal hosting, accept takedown requests, but also have some sort of procedure for the takedown requests. Which all seem quite easy to follow and adhere to and would function perfectly for Tenfingers IMO.

        Toronto cash seems to avoid the “not incentivice illegal usage”, and after a quick check it seems to be almost it’s sole reason to be, please correct me if I’m mistaken here.

    • r00ty@kbin.life
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      3 days ago

      On the one-hand I think it would be similar to how usenet works now for binaries. That is, once notified under DMCA (for the USA) and likely similar laws in other western countries you’re duty bound to remove it.

      I don’t know if there would be other problems with hosting files when you don’t know what they are. Also in terms of defence against DMCA, how would the original file uploader defend against it when you can’t know what the file is without the key. Person A reports file xyz as infringing their copyright, Uploader B says it doesn’t. Normally you could re-instate it and let the two parties fight it out in court. But, I wonder how it would play out when you hosting the file don’t even know what it is.

      I’m really not sure how it would really stack up against copyright law in general and more specifically laws for truly illegal content (e.g. CSAM), since you could be hosting that and never know.

      Seems a bit more of a risky venture to me and more a question for an actually qualified legal advisor I’m afraid.