• Corelli_III@midwest.social
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    23 hours ago

    you’re telling me that people are so wrong it’s anti-social in the nazi country where people think guns stop bullets???

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    It does not play a zero percent role but its 100% that societal choices keep them there. College dorms give students all the essentials. There is no reason all people could not have a right to an individual roomed dorm. Heck college dorms could get certified in the program reducing tuition.

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    They feed us this shit in our media for decades, and then people conduct studies and find that the indoctrination is working.

    Most of the modern media I consumed in my lifetime had this basic message behind it. Surprise, surprise, people believe the shit they read, view, and listen to even if the evidence isn’t there to support it.

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      We also had teachers shoving it down our throats that working hard would lead to success.

      They do more harm than good because most of them are too stupid to realize the forces at play. Major shoutout to the ones who do better!

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        I can understand why teachers use that convenient lie because the truth is far more nuanced and complicated.

        In reality, we should value education because it has intrinsic benefits that exist regardless of whether that education leads directly to your financial success in life or not.

        The truth is, education simply makes you a better person. It makes you more personally capable, and therefore less dependant on others. It makes you less easy to decieve, and therefore less easy to manipulate and control. It improves your ability to tell truth from lies and fact from fiction. It gives you a foundation to recognise your rights and stand up for yourself and reject abuse.

        It does so much that is not about getting rich.

        But try telling a room of 11-year olds “Work hard at school because your education is intrinsically valuable in a way thay won’t be meaningful or tangible to you until much later in life, y’all”

  • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    They have to believe it is a choice. If not, they are equally at risk of losing everything and becoming homeless and that terrifies most people. Picard’s “you can do everything right and still fail” is not something most people want to know. No one wants to be impoverished, homeless, sick, mentally unwell. Instead they find it comforting to believe that this is happening to others simply because that person made the wrong choice. The same happens for success. The one who make it would have everyone believe that if they made the exact same choices, they too would be rich and that opportunity, chance, luck have nothing to do with it.

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      I seriously think this is the reason why everyone got so mean post-Covid. They realized it can always get worse; there is no rock bottom. Everyone was forced to accept that things can always suck WAY more tomorrow than they do today, and they/we can’t handle knowing that.

      It broke a social contract.

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        Alternatively everyone realized it could be a lot better.

        Way too many chucklefucks sat at home collecting pay “working” remotely for almost 0 hours per day

        Those people got to bake bread, go outside, learn to be themselves, be happy.

        Then despite hitting every goal for their department/whatever - they were told to come back in.

        Post COVID is an attempt return to normal. Except it’s not even normal. It is worse in every quantifiable way. Everyone is more stressed out. Money is tighter.

        Nobody is in a good mood when they are hungry, and tired

    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Also, many people simply don’t want to acknowledge the safety nets that they have had surrounding them. Ever moved back in with your parents after a breakup or because you couldn’t afford the rent? Ever got a lead on a job because you knew someone who already worked there?

      People tend to think of safety nets as government handouts, but the reality is that the vast majority of safety nets are social. And some people don’t have strong social circles (like family or friends) to rely on.

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    Because we have all been thoroughly propagandized to believe this. I think a lot of people even feel this way about themselves-- a kind of internalized hatred of themselves for being poor. Purely coincidental that everything keeps getting more expensive relative to wages!

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      This reminds me of one of my favorite Vonnegut quotes.

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      America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, ‘It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.’ It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: ‘if you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?’ There will also be an American flag no larger than a child’s hand – glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register.

      Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say Napoleonic times. Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these, a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor. They do not love one another because they do not love themselves.

      Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five

      https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/158414-america-is-the-wealthiest-nation-on-earth-but-its-people

  • douz0a0bouz@midwest.social
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    The AP-NORC poll of 1,121 U.S. adults

    They had the audacity to claim that 0.0003% of the population indicative of the whole. As if we didn’t know already, these ppl are divorced from reality and are pushing rage bait/propaganda.

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
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      Umm, but that’s standard practice. The sample size seems adequate by classic statistical methods. Your margin of error to extrapolate to the general population at those figures goes down to like 0.05%, and then you start getting diminishing returns, wasting money and resources.

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    70% of Americans still believe angels exist, so yeah… We’ve got a long fucking way to go.