• Lemminary@lemmy.world
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    Since 2009, the United States, in the conduct of U.S. counterterrorism operations against al-Qa’ida and its associated forces outside of areas of active hostilities, has specifically targeted and killed one U.S. citizen, Anwar al-Aulaqi

    al-Awlaki, a cleric born in New Mexico, incited and plotted terrorist incidents involving U.S. targets, including lending support via email to Nidal Hasan in 2009 before Hasan killed 13 and wounded more than 30 people at Fort Hood in Texas.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/kesha-rogers/four-us-citizens-killed-obama-drone-strikes-3-were/

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      18 hours ago

      We have a 5th amendment or we don’t. Bush and Obama’s excesses ratcheded up executive power and made trump possible. Now imagine trump shrugging his shoulders and saying “terrorist. very bad.” as he drone strikes American citizens and thank Obama for setting the precedent.

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        I agree they laid the ground work to compromise the safety of US citizens in the name of terrorism, but I don’t think you can blame Trump on Bush and Obama. That seems like reaching while actively ignoring the rest of the problems that led to Trump.

        Wait, didn’t Trump literally shrug his shoulders and sent Obrego García to El Salvador to use him as an example and set precedent? Except that García wasn’t plotting and inviting terrorist attacks on the US nor was he related to an attack that actually happened. I think that’s a key distinction you can’t overlook.

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          I can’t accept that he actually did that because he was never tried by his peers and is therefore innocent in the eyes of the law. The whole point of the 5th amendment is we’re not supposed to just accept the governments pinky swear that someone is guilty. They’re meant to prove it, on the record.