First of all, to anyone downvoting my Comments about /e/ being a piece of shit, because…

  • they advertise themselves as degoogled, but instead let you connect to Google/Microsoft/etc services

  • replace all the propriatery not at all Secure Services from Google, with… Drumroll please… Propriatery and not at all Secure Services from themselves and actively encourage it.

  • They are For-profit

  • and being MORE out of date then even Fairphones stock roms.

… I told you so. Dm your Instance admin, pay them to send the DB entries of your Downvotes on a Thumb drive (or anything else from SSD to 3.5 inchHDD, depending on your preferences), and shove it up your rectum.

But a TL;DR:

/E/ is not Private. They just switch one bad comany to another one.

  • jeinzi@discuss.tchncs.de
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    It is not Open Source, it is “Source Available”. The Open Source definition requires that users get certain rights that the FUTO license does not grant.

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      11 days ago

      I’m not terribly knowledgeable in the difference here, is it because FUTO disallow commercial use in their license? I assume by “the open source definition” we mean the FSF definition, as the keyboard would fit the cambridge university dictionary definition for example.

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        10 days ago

        I meant the definition by the Open Source Initiative, but in almost all cases, it doesn’t make a difference if you use that or the FSF definition.

        The license shall not restrict any party from selling […] the software

        it may not restrict the program from being used in a business

        In addition to the restrictions on commercial use, the FUTO license says that you may not remove payment logic and then share your modified version, which might also be unacceptable for the FSF and/or OSI.

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        I think that is the cause. Overall, the license doesn’t define what “commercial use” is, apart from the listed examples, which overall seem to avoid any sort of publishing cases, which makes forking even more risky. Sure, when you make money off it directly, that’s commercial, but does making money indirectly off it count as well? What about using your own fork of it for gaining goodwill and using it for PR, is that commercial use?

        Generally creating a license is hard, as vauge terminology can scare off users from actually forking it due to the license being a liability or can render your license null and void if you’re not careful enough. That’s why it’s generally recommended to just use an existing licence model instead of trying to come up with your own.

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        I’m not terribly knowledgeable in the difference here, is it because FUTO disallow commercial use in their license?

        It’s because other open source applications like NewPipe and InnerTune were cloned and filled with ads before being put on the Play Store. When new users searched for these applications after a recommendation, they’d install the fake Play Store versions because they had no idea what they were doing and end up with unsafe apps on their device. Grayjay’s license allows FUTO to take legal action against anyone who attempts to do this with their application, therefore acting as a deterrent that will hopefully improve the security of new users and ensure they are not getting a bad first impression of a more privacy-preserving alternative to big tech.

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        For grayjay, they don’t provide source, but the app is distributed as electron so it doesn’t have much in the way of binaries.

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      11 days ago

      Yeah it’s not open source, but it is the best keyboard with voice input that I trust at the moment.