Hi, im searching for a new Laptop and i was tempted to buy the framework 13… BUT…

Usually i would search for a used or refurbished Laptop to give it a second life u know. And after it broke down in like 4-6 years usually, i would buy a new used one again.

So my first question is: Is the framework 13 really worth my money for the repairability and upgradability in comparison?

My prefered Laptops are the Surface like ones 2in1 with a stand and detachable keyboard…

But im okay with it to switch to a normal laptop Formfactor.

I would prefere 16:9 or 16:10 for multimedia but im used to a 3:2 so it would be kinda okay for me to stick with it.

How good can i implement linux on some surface like laptop?

I switched from win10 to linux Mint on my desktop this year. But i think im going to switch to another distro, because i need the ASHA-protocoll as fast as possible. Maybe not that important on my desktop but definetly on my next Laptop.

Someone switched from surface like laptop to FW13?

Im not a coder. More like a gamer with og cheat codes in gtaSA on a cracked Version of the game, which runs in deamon-tools as an ISO, lol.

Main use would be Multimedia and some gaming, if possible.

Another use would be AI… but as far as i know linux doesnt support the build in NPU of the FW13 yet. Maybe ai tinker in a few years then?

And im something like a crypto bro i would say. So how good are crypto tools implemented in linux? Some cold wallet support for exampel.

Is there a better choice for me than FW13 ?

So all in all im hopelessly lost and cant decide shit ^^

My only hope is to ask some Linux OGs to help me out on dis.

plz halp.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      Oh, and one more thing. There’s a sizable linux community specifically built around Asus ROG laptops. Look up ‘linux rog’ and you will find associated gitlabs and a Discord specifically built up around them. It’s still a fantastic resource for my 2020 G14.

      The Z13 is especially good for linux, as it has discrete-gpu-class performance on the IGP, so you don’t have to fuss with a dual GPU setup on linux (which can be a tremendous headache, especially with Nvidia cards).

      As for a distro, I adore CachyOS for ML stuff, but its really down to your personal needs and taste.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      Ah, crap, you’re in Europe.

      So basically the only laptop worth anything for AI is one with the new Strix Halo AMD chips, and the closest to what you want is the Asus Z13: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Flow-Z13-GZ302EA-Convertible-Review-AMD-s-Strix-Halo-GPU-is-neck-and-neck-with-the-RTX-4070-Laptop.963266.0.html

      https://shop.asus.com/us/rog/90nr0jy1-m00670-rog-flow-z13-2025.html?config=90NR0JY1-M00670

      Specifically the 128GB version if you can save up, or at least the 64GB version. While most laptops are useless for ML, this one utterly blows my desktop out of the water: it’s like an of magnitude better than the Frameowrk 13 at that.

      Even more importantly, LLM devs are targeting the Strix Halo chips, so they will be well supported. You can spin up a vllm, exllama or llama.cpp-rocm image on them right now, whereas you will struggle to get things up and running on most laptops older IGPs.

      Coincidentally, you won’t find anything 13" that can game better either. Its a surface-like tablet too, and franky its cooling is way better than a Framework 13. It’s perfect!

      …Problem is, I don’t know if you can even get it in Europe. But historically, I know Asus laptops tend to be proportionally more expensive than they are in the US for some reason, so even if you can, I’m afraid the 64GB/128GB versions would be cost prohibitive.