Huh HEK 293 is standard. Not sure what you mean on HeLa. No one uses these wd have synthetic immortal cell lines… https://www.the-odin.com/human-cells/ look at the site? Yea, zero knowledge. It’s called learning.
Brother, I have read entire books on this and have spent a good deal of time in the lab, and I know for a fact you don’t learn it by following a cooking recipe from YouTube.
Are you serious? How is this complex. I respect your opinion but kids do these kits in school. I’m confused on what you see on this website that’s complex?
Performing a lab experiment isn’t the same as understanding the biological framework and its mechanisms. All the lab stuff you do in school is to supplement what you learned in the classroom. It’s never a substitute for reading material and the guidance of a professor. And also, who has $50 to spend on a single ingredient instead of going online and reading things for free? Might as well buy the textbooks for that price.
Never said that. Doing it a lot does. I think you have your way of learning and cant see a path outside that. Read vs. Hands on? Why not both at the same time. If you think people are this dumb… Ok but I refuse to believe that.
Kids? I think you mean young adults in university who have at least a couple of semesters of rigorous biology and chemistry under their belt to understand what they’re doing and why.
Dude, you don’t need biochem to do any of this. You don’t need to know a thing about biology to do a single one of these. But by the end it should sink in. You follow protocols. You think that requires a degree?
I’m not saying you need a degree to follow a recipe. I’m saying you need a formal education to understand what you’re doing with those protocols, how they work, and most importantly, why. You’re assuming that mucking around with some lab ingredients that the majority of pharma majors don’t even touch in 5 years of school will transfer the knowledge that can be easily learned in other ways, especially for layfolk. Why not link to a video on YouTube, or an article on Wikipedia, or whatever other intro material online?
I have a degree in this shit. Get off your stupid high horse, you’re not helping or educating anyone. You just want to feel good about yourself by calling other people stupid and doing a shit job at science advocacy. How about you learn what not being an arrogant dick looks like?
That initial comment can be taken in two ways, and you chose the worst one by thinking they’re antivax when in fact they’re not. Take a look at this removed comment from the modlog by the person you originally replied to:
Not to mention the context. It’s Lemmy where the overwhelming majority of users are squarely pro-vax and generally well-educated to assume the worst from the get-go. The least you can do is skim through a user’s comment history to get a sense of what they mean if you’re so keen on people figuring things out on their own. At least be coherent in that front.
The way you’re going about it is arrogant. The starting point you’re proposing is unintuitive, more time-consuming, impractical, and wildly expensive. “Well, they don’t want to learn!” Really.
Huh HEK 293 is standard. Not sure what you mean on HeLa. No one uses these wd have synthetic immortal cell lines… https://www.the-odin.com/human-cells/ look at the site? Yea, zero knowledge. It’s called learning.
Steps by step protocols, classes etc. Can you cook a microwave dinner? If so, you can do this.
Brother, I have read entire books on this and have spent a good deal of time in the lab, and I know for a fact you don’t learn it by following a cooking recipe from YouTube.
Cool?
You start with approachable material that explains the basic theory. This is not it by putting the cart before the horse.
Are you serious? How is this complex. I respect your opinion but kids do these kits in school. I’m confused on what you see on this website that’s complex?
Fine, here https://www.the-odin.com/edit-bacteria-with-crispr-simplified-version/ like, without self selection to review the site this won’t make sense. Agree. I only linked human cell culture because the brain up there thought it was all plants. Lol
Performing a lab experiment isn’t the same as understanding the biological framework and its mechanisms. All the lab stuff you do in school is to supplement what you learned in the classroom. It’s never a substitute for reading material and the guidance of a professor. And also, who has $50 to spend on a single ingredient instead of going online and reading things for free? Might as well buy the textbooks for that price.
Never said that. Doing it a lot does. I think you have your way of learning and cant see a path outside that. Read vs. Hands on? Why not both at the same time. If you think people are this dumb… Ok but I refuse to believe that.
Kids? I think you mean young adults in university who have at least a couple of semesters of rigorous biology and chemistry under their belt to understand what they’re doing and why.
Dude, you don’t need biochem to do any of this. You don’t need to know a thing about biology to do a single one of these. But by the end it should sink in. You follow protocols. You think that requires a degree?
I’m not saying you need a degree to follow a recipe. I’m saying you need a formal education to understand what you’re doing with those protocols, how they work, and most importantly, why. You’re assuming that mucking around with some lab ingredients that the majority of pharma majors don’t even touch in 5 years of school will transfer the knowledge that can be easily learned in other ways, especially for layfolk. Why not link to a video on YouTube, or an article on Wikipedia, or whatever other intro material online?
I have a degree in this shit. Get off your stupid high horse, you’re not helping or educating anyone. You just want to feel good about yourself by calling other people stupid and doing a shit job at science advocacy. How about you learn what not being an arrogant dick looks like?
We should stop treating adults like children. This is not hard. When people attack science we should back. Being ignorant is not useful to anyone.
That initial comment can be taken in two ways, and you chose the worst one by thinking they’re antivax when in fact they’re not. Take a look at this removed comment from the modlog by the person you originally replied to:
Not to mention the context. It’s Lemmy where the overwhelming majority of users are squarely pro-vax and generally well-educated to assume the worst from the get-go. The least you can do is skim through a user’s comment history to get a sense of what they mean if you’re so keen on people figuring things out on their own. At least be coherent in that front.
So your point is to abandon conviction in science based on person and community. Nah
My point is for you to stop being arrogant, stop assuming things, and learn proper science communication. Keep your conviction, but do it right.
Telling people they can learn anything is arrogant? They can… They just don’t want to.
The way you’re going about it is arrogant. The starting point you’re proposing is unintuitive, more time-consuming, impractical, and wildly expensive. “Well, they don’t want to learn!” Really.
I respectfully disagree. I think that’s high education, elitist nonsense and the reason there is little to no progress being made. You all gatekeep.