Will they lobby for laws that prohibit Linux or make it difficult to install? What actions might they take in the future?

  • humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su
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    1 day ago

    I’d wager they have enough resources to stave it off for as long as possible, and when they can’t do that anymore they will have a strategy for making money off of their “services” in the linux space.

    Microsoft is part of the cabal at this point. Businesses give it money because they’re expected to.

  • hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Add more spyware, isn’t that the de facto mentality of Microsoft? Add more spyware so they can force you to buy more crap, al for the “greater good”. Oh yeah, and most likely try and take over secureboot with some Microsoft crap allowed only, “for to protect the children”.

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Maybe requiring locking bootloader “for safety” on desktop computers if they want to run windows 12

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 days ago

    MS already doesn’t have a monopoly in any meaningful sense anymore.

    Windows isn’t the main way Microsoft makes money anymore anyway…

    • pineapple@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      They might not make much money from windows but it’s still a very important point of control. If they control the os then they can control what’s pre-installed. They can control what office suit, cloud service, ai slop, spyware to use before any other conpetitor has a chance to advertise.

  • Xartle@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    I’m going to go with “nothing”. They blend their numbers but I’d be willing to bet the amount of money they make selling direct licenses is tiny. (Tiny at their scale, I’d take it any day.) The whole OEM business isn’t even huge to them. If they start losing the enterprise market, then I’m sure they would throw down, but you and everyone you know installing Linux would be fine. Have you noticed how easy it is to steal windows and how there seem to be very few repercussions? That says volumes about what they think the revenue potential of that market is…

  • randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    They will adapt.

    Embrace, extend, extinguish. They will become Linux.

    In all seriousness, if you look into how windows manages its security now, it leverages virtualization to essentially run windows inside of a hypervisor. At some point in the future, the legacy windows kernel is going to just be another virtual machine running side by side with Linux and the hypervisor will probably run their HyperV tech on top of a Linux (compatible) kernel.

    Then they will say that you need their version of Linux to run specific hardware and software.

    EEE

  • Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemmy.zip
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    4 days ago

    It’s mobile devices that are eroding Windows market share on desktops, not Linux.

    Linux already dominates the server space, it runs the internet and super computing, but it will NEVER be a threat to Microsoft on desktops.

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      4 days ago

      I think it is clear that it’s just a matter of time that a faster, more secure, free and open source operating system will win over a worse alternative.

      • Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemmy.zip
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        3 days ago

        The vast majority of desktop users don’t give two flips about security, nor freedom, they don’t even know what those things are and don’t care to be informed.

        I’ve even seen a few (on reddit) asking for Linux to support giving kernel level permissions to applications, so they can play a few videogames, they are fine with having rootkits on their PC, that’s the level of “care” they have.

        But that’s ok, Linux is already a de-facto “monopoly” on the server side, the most important one, it doesn’t need to win over also desktops.

  • Ferk@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    The desktop has been losing market for a while. I feel Windows is already under serious threat (if not already in the minority) when you think about all the devices that mainstream audiences orbit around (phones, tablets, portable consoles, etc), often using the Linux kernel. Only about a third of most website traffic comes from desktops.

    Many of the people who frequently use Windows desktop do so because of their job, and often avoid using it outside of work as much as possible, since it feels like… well, work.

    Microsoft has been desperately trying to try to appeal to those other bigger sectors of the pie and has failed every time.

  • eldain@feddit.nl
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    4 days ago

    Adapt and fight. Linux is the dominant OS for everything, so Windows started to support it (wsl) so they don’t loose developers. Secure boot worked as a moat for a while and the MS monopoly on OS keys is still an obstacle. Linux works better on ARM than Windows, so obviously Qualcom Laptops have a locked down bootloader. They will continue to lock themselfes into the future with money and development resources.

  • codenul@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    Some people including me maybe dont want Linux to become popular.

    Can we please have something in this world that isnt ruined by the general population? They already ruined the internet -

    • chaitae3@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      Yes exactly. Embrace and extinguish has always been Microsoft’s strategy. They’ll release their own distribution and either make it slower and more complicated than Windows, so that everyone thinks Windows is the better OS, or they’ll make it a cloud OS like Chrome, requiring recurring payments to use Office 365 and everything else.

      • Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca
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        4 days ago

        I see this as the most likely outcome as well. It’s the preferred route, seen all of the place lately. Want to privatize a public service? Cripple the public service enough to “prove it doesn’t work” to convince people privatization is the best option. I suspect most people would switch to Microsoft Linux over something “tech” sounding like Debian or Ubuntu. When the trial of their slowed down and crashy “Linux” comes to an end, Microsoft will offer an easy solution to switch back to Windows.

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            4 days ago

            Two things, I was under the impression that Azure can emulate a lot of different Linux distro. Second, I thought the hypervisor ran on cut down version of Windows server.

            • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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              4 days ago

              VMs aren’t emulation. Its a full OS running on virtual hardware. Also, yes, azure offers several distros, not just Microsoft’s.

              The OS of the bare metal host shouldn’t matter much of at all to the guest. If you have a philosophical issue with the hypervisor running under windows I doubt you’d be using azure to begin with.

  • kepix@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    pays even more to hardware manufacturers to add windows by default, and make drivers windows only.