So a new major version of Debian has been released, and now I see a lot of complaints about various issues stemming from an upgrade. I do not remember this many after an LTS Ubuntu version. I don’t want to rush to conclusions like “Ubuntu has money for better quality assurance”. I can easily come up with explanations for why these statistics can be skewed, like “Ubuntu-loving plebeians do not come to complain to elite Lemmy users about their puny problems”. I’m curious what you think?

  • arty@feddit.orgOPEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Doesn’t the upgrade manager of Debian disable them automatically, like Ubuntu does?

    • porl@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 day ago

      I don’t think so, because it shouldn’t be an automated process. Doing that blindly is a great way to have orphaned and incompatible package versions left on your machine.

        • porl@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 day ago

          The update won’t break the system if you follow the update instructions (remove packages from those repositories first). The Ubuntu way does break the system (see my other comment).

          • arty@feddit.orgOPEnglish
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            12 hours ago

            Well, people do not follow instructions and their systems get broken 🤷 To a much larger extent than an orphaned package

            • porl@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              9 hours ago

              That’s the point - those mismatched packages often break the system. I had to do probably near a half dozen reinstalls after Ubuntu’s “clever” trick wrecked my system. I ran a Debian system from potato through to sarge updating each time with no trouble. My Ubuntu machine had problems virtually every upgrade (though most minor) and required more than a few full reinstalls.