• LinguisticKerosene@lemmy.wtf
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    20 hours ago

    What can I tell you, this less here (mind you from the university of Chicago) is pretty compelling no? Video

    why there is never nuance with this topic? Again the US is responsible for numerous war crimes for decades, it’s not crazy to think they did it on purpose.

    If we make a deal, you break it and i get mad, you can’t tell me “oh wo wo what are you so mad?”, pretend nothing happened and call me crazy.

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      20 hours ago

      Don’t pretend like Mearsheimer is some sort of objective observer, he’s a fountain of wacky convictions. It’s also wild to use ‘get mad’ as a euphemism for military conquest and genocide.

      Can we at least agree to call a spade a spade? Russia annexing Ukraine by force is military expansion. If we can put that to bed then the only issue in contention is determining if it was unprovoked or not. If we can’t agree on such a plainly obvious fact then I have misgivings we can come to an understanding at all.

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        19 hours ago

        Nah comon bro, dont attack the source. Let’s work on the argument. We live in a post-truth world, everyone can be discredited.

        Can we at least agree to call a spade a spade? Russia annexing Ukraine by force is military expansion.

        Yes, but I don’t really believe Russia’s goal is to expand. I agree with the professor that Russia doesn’t have the power (but also willingness) to expand and successfully maintain a “European russian colony”.

        The way I see it is: Nato e Russia decided to not expand anywhere after the cold war. However NATO broke this pact and started expanding east (when they signed the agreement there NATO and Russia were geographically very far apart). We didn’t give signs of slowing down or admitting we broke a peaceful pact, we actually accelerated and promoted “red scare” propaganda tactics to discredit Russia.

        So I can clearly see Putin say: “If you only understand war then I can also use your language”.

        You should read about the Orange revolution, where NATO, US and EU fabricated news and speculations about fraud and changed the election.

        I just wish there was a bit more honesty with ourselves and the world. As a european, if we really want to point fingers to other people’s faults and mistakes, we should first look inside and in our past, without justifying ourselves.