I recently switched from arch to kionite and I quite like it a lot. There is defenitly more stability and security. Although rpm-ostree I quite a learning curve compared to pacman.

Either way for anyone curious ask NY anything about the distro / the switch to it.

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    Ah, I did the exact same about a week ago. To be fair, I installed Kinoite on a second laptop, because I really need my working setup for the next couple of weeks. So I am not forced to use the Kinoite.

    The thing that mostly drives me back to Arch, ist that I dont really understand the different appoaches of flatpak, toolbox and the package layering, or more their specific pros and cons and when I want/have to use what, depending also on my threat model.

    I even struggled to get my Thunderbird working with my old config, because it wouldn’t recognize my .thunderbird in /var/apps/net.thunderbird.Thunderbird/...

    Although Fedora has a quite good documentation, which I read with joy (which is not usual) I feel that I am missing some graphical depiction, or something :D

    I think the last 2 days I didn’t touch this, because I was thinking about writing a lemmy post, with the following:

    1. What are the most obvious things one has to learn/understand, before switching from arch to immutable (esp. kinoite) ?
    2. What steps in your workflow changed, and how do you feel about them? Like do you like them? Is it annoying, but you know it’s for good so you still do it? Do you really don’t like something?

    Thanks for your post, it came just at the right time :D

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      I just can’t recommend Aurora, Bluefin and Bazzite enough. Go read Bazzite’s docs. If you had ever used MacOS as a developer and wanted to use Linux tooling, the way you are supposed to work with atomic distros will be suddenly clear to you.

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      I tried bazzite, which is very close to kinoite, as Fedora itself had a great out of box experience, even on laptops.

      Whilst there was a way to get most setups, apps and configs working it was clear I would eventually run into a piece of software that the effort to get it working was not worth it. Some software and development tools are not (yet) designed and maintained to easily work in an immutable environment.

      My biggest gripe was that any interaction with os-tree meant that updates now started to take a really long time building the image with high CPU/power usage. I wasn’t ditching Windows to go back to a world of unnecessarily long updates.

      For some, I can see the immutable can work well if they want an Android like experience and can accept the software catalog available. It wasn’t the right model for me, as I expected my machine to do more than point and click app install. I would be curious how your typical arch user would find it.