• Ech@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    When is it going to stop being “He’s so incompetent, it’s like he’s doing it on purpose!” and start being “Oh, he’s doing this on purpose…”? This has been obvious for so long now.

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      14 days ago

      I’d say it’s part incompetence, part intentional sabotage. He truly is a fucking moron, but he also hates the US.

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        14 days ago

        He’s easily manipulated by corrupt people, including those who don’t have the best interests of the U.S. at heart.

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          13 days ago

          Like seeing Tim Cook gift him that golden statue so apple gets no tariffs…like everyone can see and stroke his ego.

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            Which is funny because its like he’s an 8 year old boy. Ohh gold. Doesn’t yet realize Platinum is worth more, etc.

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      13 days ago

      it doesn’t take much intelligence to destroy things under you over the course of 4-8 years. He’s very obviously incompetent because he’s doing this on purpose.

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        13 days ago

        it doesn’t take much intelligence to destroy things

        “A bull in a China shop” is a comparison I often use.

        It’s fast and easy to break things. Any idiot can swing a sledge hammer at random stuff they don’t understand.

        Fixing and building takes a lot longer. Also takes a lot more knowledge, skill and expense.

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      14 days ago

      There hasn’t been a doubt about his intentions for a long time. He is, however, likely taking many actions because someone told him to, he heard a sound bite on Faux News, or he perceived some slight from social media.

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      13 days ago

      No, please don’t give him that much credit. If you saw him run a casino, you’d swear he was doing it on purpose, but he isn’t. He really just is that dumb.

      I’m not saying he’s not also in Putin’s pocket, but don’t try to convince me that he has the brains necessary to make sabotage look like incompetence. He’s nowhere near that clever.

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    14 days ago

    Yes. The goal of this administration is and always has been to hurt America at the behest of foreign interests. We have got to stop acting surprised when the people who want to hurt America, in fact, hurt America.

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    12 days ago

    Going through the comments, it’s mostly Trump being an agent of China, of the Saudis, the Israelis, and mostly a Russian agent.

    I unfortunately don’t think there’s a way out of this for the US population unless people start to accept that Trump is a very distinctly American character, the culmination of what the right wing in the US has been working towards forever. And that the problem the US has is an internal one. Trump is an inevitable consequence of the US political environment, and he or someone like him would’ve come to power sooner or later, even if Russia didn’t exist as an external factor. Unless people accept that, I don’t think there’s any coming back from this for the US population. It’s just going to get worse. And it unfortunately will also bring chunks of the rest of World down with it in the process.

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    13 days ago

    But no one in the us seems willing to do anything about it, aside from making the occasional mildly caustic statements online and in govt.

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        Putin’s primary objective is to cause enormous chaos in all aspects of American life, according to Foundations in Geopolitics, the Russian playbook:

        Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists” to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

        Any “stuff” he gets - land, territory, money, etc.- is all gravy. All he really wants is for America to devolve into such disorder and chaos, that their influence in the world dissolves.

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          13 days ago

          Yes absolutely but that will not be Russia who will be the winner at the end.

          Right now China is moving it’s pieces really well and making a lot of allies that will last longer that a war and force will bring

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    13 days ago

    I wonder why? Hey let’s ask his boss, Putin. “Why is the obese imbecile being such a cunt…?”

    Ok, this just in from Putin:
    “Paedophile pisstapes”
    Wow, that could mean Putin was watching Grey’s Anatomy. Or it could mean that Putin has videos of russian asset tRUMP pissing over the kids that he had just raped.

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    14 days ago

    I disagree. This is the guy that’s openly talked about wanting to annex new territory for the US (Canada, Greenland) and set up a US controlled Gaza strip. He’s an imperialist at the core.

    I would welcome the end of US dominance. Maybe if he was trying to dismantle US military bases across Eurasia or heavily reduce military spending then there would be a point to be made.

    I don’t think his his tariff shenanigans has anything to do with trying to sabotage US dominance. I think it’s just a side effect of his usual attempts at personal gain. I also disagree with the notion that he’s intentionally doing Putin’s bidding. I think he’s just a useful idiot for Putin.

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    13 days ago

    The public got so tired of being no. one they voted the absolute worst possible candidate in history to the highest office in the land for shits and giggles. I mean, how bad could it get? Fafo.

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    Ive been scared for over a decade now that the US gov is following a similar pattern Russia did 20 years ago and that when the US loses it’s economic and cultural dominance they will start to do exactly what Russia is doing and flex military might, except with the largest military in the world and bases in damn near every country.

    If I was the leader of any other country I would have already started/redoubled efforts planning on how to engage with the US as an enemy years ago. Not ‘hur durr they’re already an enemy cuz Trump dumb’, I mean drones at your doorstep your children weap at sunshine enemy.

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      If I was the leader of any other country I would have already started/redoubled efforts planning on how to engage with the US as an enemy years ago. Not ‘hur durr they’re already an enemy cuz Trump dumb’, I mean drones at your doorstep your children weap at sunshine enemy.

      Yeah… that’s actually happening. It just doesn’t make sense to be super noisy about it at the moment. Anyone in Canada that has any capability to manufacture drones are getting military procurement contracts approved ridiculously fast right now. Like those kinds of things usually take years to get through the red tape, but now it’s like weeks to go from testing to procurement.

      At the moment it’s only a trade war, and it would be best if that’s as far as it goes. But if Trump takes things further… yeah, there will be drones at his doorstep. I wonder what something like this could do to Mar a lago? https://youtu.be/olYVvx8TfGk

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      14 days ago

      It’s be cool if the overseas bases had some balls and just said, “fuck it, we’ll just side with our hosting country.” I guess it could really happen without a mini civil war on base.

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        13 days ago

        Because the US isn’t at a full on tipping point on that yet, because yes, that’s when civil wars start.

        US Civil War #1 started over a military base. If POTUS declares and attack on a major ally, that’s probably going to be the starting gun for the second one.

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          13 days ago

          The U.S. Civil War #1 never really ended (confederate flags all over the South, institutionalized racism, legal slavery in for-profit prisons, etc.), it just went into a “cold” phase. It is certainly heating up again.

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      There is every chance of this happening. We’re already seeing the start of it with Trump’s remarks on Greenland and Canada. Those aren’t just harmless quips. They’re intent to (militarily) bully anyone and everyone into compliance.