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A post by [object Object] (@zzt@mas.to) saying: courtesy of @davidgerard@circumstances.run, Proton is now the only privacy vendor I know of that vibe codes its apps: In the single most damning thing I can say about Proton in 2025, the Proton GitHub repository has a “cursorrules” file. They’re vibe-coding their public systems. Much secure! I am once again begging anyone who will listen to get off of Proton as soon as reasonably possible, and to avoid their new (terrible) apps in any case. https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/114961415946154957

It has a reply by the author saying: in an unsurprising update for those familiar with how Proton operates, they silently rewrote their monorepo’s history to purge .cursor and hide that they were vibe coding: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/2a5e2ad4db0c84f39050bf2353c944a96d38e07f

given the utter lack of communication from Proton on this, I can only guess they’ve extracted .cursor into an external repository and continue to use it out of sight of the public

    • nomadpxl@programming.dev
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      2 days ago

      Yeah using cursor or any AI assistance != vibe coding. I’m just confused why they acted guilty and edited their history without saying anything

      • Valmond@lemmy.world
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        1 day ago

        Maybe they did the git stuff for some other reason. I mean the files are still there 🤷🏼‍♀️

        I’m a bit tired of the Proton employee bumped into a tourist and didn’timmediately say sorry sort or posts about proton.

      • jouhija@sopuli.xyz
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        19 hours ago

        Just because you think calling out murderers is xenophobia doesn’t make it so, much like in this case

      • rozodru@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        It’s not.

        make a directory, init a git repo, start claude code in that directory, feed it a prompt (a good vibe coder will utilize another LLM to write them the prompt), then hit shift+tab a couple times, got watch youtube.

        that’s vibe coding.

      • Evotech@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        No the “definition” (loose term because it’s based on one guys tweet hat invented the word) of vibe coding is to don’t read the code, accept any changes and code purely of vibes.

          • Evotech@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            Not entirely, but the crux is here

            “Karpathy described it as “fully giving in to the vibes, embracing exponentials, and forgetting that the code even exists.””

          • mholiv@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            From the article you cited. Did you read it?

            Unlike traditional AI-assisted coding or pair programming, the human developer avoids micromanaging the code, accepts AI-suggested completions liberally, and focuses more on iterative experimentation than code correctness or structure. Karpathy described it as “fully giving in to the vibes, embracing exponentials, and forgetting that the code even exists.”

          • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca
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            2 days ago

            I only read the intro and definition sections, but the article lines up exactly with what Evotech said.

        • buttnugget@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          Oh that’s what it means? Ok I think we’re all confused because it’s literally just from one tweet! I need to look this up.