• ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Every time this is brought up all 13 users of the em dash come crawling out of the woodworks to say “people use em dashes all the time!” No they do not.

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      10 days ago

      I do use the em-dash occasionally, but I was raised on a diet of classic old books with certain habits reinforced through academic writing standards. AI outputs these things because they were trained on inputs containing them. AI is nothing but a slightly distorted reflection of the training material.

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      Hey you! Don’t call me out like that, okay? :(

      Bur seriously I really like em dashes when writing in a roleplay or similar texts. I think it’s a nice option to style and structure some sentences. And even though not many people use them, I hate that they became a mark of shame of some kind.

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      10 days ago

      I’d love to use it but it has become a dirty marker. :/

      I used to use double en dashes hyphens and even that feels weird now.

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      9 days ago

      I mean… I do. But I’m well aware of the fact that most don’t. Alt code is 0151 baby. Have had it memorized for years.

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        9 days ago

        Let me tell you about the compose key, or about WinCompose if you’re on Windows.

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            I mean, it’s great.

            Compose key: press the key, then press other keys with mnemonics for the desired target. Compose, e, ‘ gives you é. Compose, a, e gives you æ. Compose, -, > gives you a right arrow.

            Things like that. And it’s customizable with a reference lookup too.

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              Sounds neat! Is it that a separate key on some keyboard layouts? Or triggered by a hotkey combination?

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                I’ve only ever seen it triggered by the Alt Gr key personally, but it’s naturally customizable. Interestingly, though, there exists a distinct USB HID key code for the compose key—suggesting there might be keyboards with a dedicated key or could theoretically be created.

                This post was not written my the AI, I’m just sassy and started using the em dash more often now. I used to just use the hyphen on online forums instead, reserving the real em dash for papers and such. Things like the compose key make it incredibly easy to input—so much so that it does not take more time than just a regular hyphen.

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                Configurable. I use right-alt or right-windows key depending on which keyboard.

                It originally was a key on the DEC VT220 terminal, circa 1983. The feature is very useful though!

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        10 days ago

        This is right up there with MS products replacing my double quotes with the stylized left and right quotes that end up fucking things up when copied into anything else. At least when I change them back, it doesn’t keep doing it like the really old versions of Word used to when they first added that sort of functionality (yes, i’m old).

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          That’s just because they tried to cram it into an ASCII extension, Windows-1252 instead of adopting UTF-8 Unicode like any sane person.

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      I’ve had software automatically do it. I. Pretty sure Outlook (I have to use it at work…) does it when it feels it’s appropriate after I type -.

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      9 days ago

      Hey I use em dashes all the time— specifically when I’m trying to seem like an LLM for shitposting online